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I just spent most of a day, missing work of course, trying to comply with the new Larimer County emissions requirements. Never even got to the test. Need to schedule the test, wrong tires, costly, blah, blah, blah. Not to mention the state requiring me to torture test my truck every year.



I think this is discriminatory BS that needs to end. Anyone interested in a petition or class action suit to get the state's attention?
 
No inspections or testing up here in Summit County. Not looking forward to the day when the enviro- whackos will impose it here.
 
I just spent most of a day, missing work of course, trying to comply with the new Larimer County emissions requirements. Never even got to the test. Need to schedule the test, wrong tires, costly, blah, blah, blah. Not to mention the state requiring me to torture test my truck every year.



I think this is discriminatory BS that needs to end. Anyone interested in a petition or class action suit to get the state's attention?
Wrong tires? Does Co. require stock tires?
 
Yea what is this wrong tire BS any way? I have 265's on my truck and just passed the test Last Friday here in Denver.

Good luck.
Tom
 
I just spent most of a day, missing work of course, trying to comply with the new Larimer County emissions requirements. Never even got to the test. Need to schedule the test, wrong tires, costly, blah, blah, blah. Not to mention the state requiring me to torture test my truck every year.



I think this is discriminatory BS that needs to end. Anyone interested in a petition or class action suit to get the state's attention?



Does Larmier county have to adhere to the 6 metro county emmission regs now? Diesels can't be tested at the Clean Air Colorado sites, so you have to go to an independant shop (of which there are several dozen in the metro area). The test is dnyo based, so I wonder if the tire issue is due to the dyno equipment at the shop you went to? I know people with 285's that have not had an issue with tire size. And by the way, the Clear Air Colorado testing is every two years, not every year. I would be surprised to hear that Larimer County (more rural than the metro area, but getting more urban rapidly) would be more restricitive in their testing that the Colorado Clean Air regs of the metro area.



It has worked ok for me, and if nothing else at least I get HP and torque dyno numbers every two years for the cost of my $50 emmission test (you have to ask, and I try to schedule my test when they are not busy). I know people that "fail" on purpose just so they can go back for revised dyno numbers.
 
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Been out of touch for a few days. I just needed to vent a bit. It seems like State/Fed government is doing their best to make it tough to drive a diesel: ULSD, extra fuel taxes ($0. 55/gal more at the pump than 87 gas? Really?), special emissions, extra license fees.

The most frustrating part of Clean Air is that the only vehicles I see in NoCo belching smoke (gas or diesel) tend to have WY plates!

BTW, it was studed snow tires that were the problem. I had just paid to have them put on a week prior.
 
WE can have clean breathable air with requirements or we can have no requirements and air like they have in Beijing. Our choice.

Ken
 
KLauber, requirements are one thing. But to continually re-invent the wheel over and over and charging for it is another.



I'm happy that you can lie down at night knowing that your 2008 has the some of the latest emission controls.
 
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Always keep in mind that no matter how tough the EPA gets there in CO. you can always walk out the back door and vent toward that pretty landscape.
 
Always keep in mind that no matter how tough the EPA gets there in CO. you can always walk out the back door and vent toward that pretty landscape.



Yup. Just ask us Californians.
 
I'm on this same soapbox this weekend - also in Larimer County. The place I get my test every year in Longmont was closed yesterday - sign said "Closed for repairs". No eta so I went to Loveland. Was told at 2PM I needed an appointment. There were only two others ahead of me but couldn't get in until 4. I killed 2 hours, put in some fuel treatment and went back at 4.



He rolled the truck onto the dyno, parked it and came into the waiting area to tell me my check engine light is on. I said I knew that - it's an intermittent thing, camshaft position sensor comes on about once every 3 months. He says, "That's a fail - I can't pass you with that light on. "



I asked if he could clear the code and run the test. He said yes - for $40. I said I could drive home, clear it with my own code reader and come back - was he really asking me to go for a 45 minute drive to save $40?



His reply was, "Well my machine costs $9,000".



Kick me for not just moving on at that point but I was just anxious to get this solved. You see, the other fun thing going on in Larimer County is they start fining the heck out of you for overdue license plates. And you don't get license plates without an emission test (on diesel only) So every day I don't take care of this it's getting more expensive.



Mr. Shop Owner tells me he'd be there when I got back but he really wants to get out of there by 5:15 or so. I said I'd make it. As I walk out the door I look at the sign which says his hours are until 5:30...



I drove home, cleared the light, drove back and got there by 4:45. He wasn't in the waiting area just then so I walked back out to the truck to grab my cell phone I'd forgotten. When I came back 60 seconds later the door was locked!



I knocked and he opened it and said, "Oh *****, I forgot you were coming back!" He rolled my truck in and started testing while I waited. The first time he did the accelleration test I thought, "Sheesh, I need an emissions test, not a horsepower chart!"



I heard my truck idle down, and after 20 seconds he goes for another run. Then another. On the fourth run I walked out into the shop to see what was going on. Something was rapidly leaking from under my engine - looked like fuel, and he says -"You got a chip in this thing? Because it won't pass no matter what I do. "



I said I did - the same chip and injector combo that it's had for 9 of the 10 years I've owned the truck and it's never failed yet. I have the Edge Comp, and it was set at level 2x2. I passed last year with it on 3x3 (barely, I hadn't meant to leave it there but I blew a 30, well under the 35% opacity max). I dialed the chip down to 1x1 and asked him if he would please run it again. He said "OK, but this is the last time, otherwise I'll overheat my dyno. "



I should have said out loud what I was thinking which was it would help if he would run an emissions test instead of trying for a 0-60 record. I'm exaggerating a bit but I know it was way over the top compared to any test I've had at the Longmont station.



It failed again. Right where I could tell it would, when it shifted into 3rd and I could hear huge boost building up. Before the turbo caught up with the fuel request though it made just enough smoke to fail. So he wrote me up a failure report which had three entries:

40mph 25% opacity

50mph 35% opacity

60mph 42% opacity

When I looked at it, he said on the previous test (chip at 2x2) I was blowing an 80%. But he didn't show me that report.



Of course I still had to cough up $75, which I expected, but he also explained I could bring that back for one free re-test after I got it "fixed".



He kept harping about my chip and injectors, completely ignoring me that it has passed multiple tests with exactly this same setup for years. He also got pissy about my tail pipe - a whopping 4 incher :rolleyes: - that made it "hard" for him to attach his sensor. He said I should "get a tail pipe on there" before the next test.



I asked him about the fluid on the floor and he said, "Oh yeah, I tried to find the source of it but it's so wet under there I can't tell. It's obviously been doing that a long time. I guarantee you if we walk out and look in the parking lot, we'll find an identical spot where your truck was parked before the test".



Guess what? I took him up on that and we couldn't find one. Granted, it was dark by then and the lot wasn't particularly well lit, but the spots he tried to blame on me were OIL, not fuel.



So now I'm stuck. Do I try to find some way to squeak by his test - some other fuel additive, change all filters, etc? just so I can get it for free on the retest? I'm not thrilled about having that guy touch my truck again. Or do I cough up $75 somewhere else and hope for a softer right foot and a better result?



I don't like making accusations, but can you imagine how hard of a time I'm having with the coincidence that the testing station that's passed me all these years is only that - a testing station; but Mr. Leadfoot also happens to be a diesel repair shop?



Nah, that can't be it. It's gotta be that chip...



#@$%!
 
I feel your pain dude but you might just have to return your truck to stock like we do in Ca.



Two associates of mine spent two days swapping back stock components inorder to pass in Ca.



To all of you in other states, just wait, . . It'll be your turn soon.
 
The saga continues. I think I'm starting to catch up to jwdeeming's level of pain. Went back for a test with the summer tires, SmartyJR on stock setting, fresh oil, new fuel filter, and new air filter. Still failed.
40 MPH 9%
50 MPH 7%
60 MPH 52%!!!
I asked the shop what the next step was, and got a "deer in the headlights" look.
Any ideas out there? Any additive suggestions?

Like jwdeeming, I'm facing ridiculous late fees if I can't get this resolved this week.

KLauber, my option at this point is to drive my 77 Ford (400 4 barrel and straight exhaust) every day. It is grandfathered in this new emissions extortion plan, but I'm guessing the tailpipe of the Ford is a lot dirtier than the Dodge. Does that make any sense?
 
GElliot,

which shop did you guys go to? I had some buddies go to Lundstedt and fail for no muffler, but another friend takes his '98 12v to Houska and passes with no cat and 370hp injectors, he just has to swao out his #10 fp for the stocker. I register in Livermore, which is outside the zone, so I can't offer my own experience. Do you have any friends in Weld County?... ... .
 
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mhelburg,
Had an issue with Lundstedt a few years back on another vehicle. I failed at Houska yesterday. That's the frustrating part. Your buddy can get a modded '98 to pass, but my bone stock truck with 100K on the clock failed. Gonna try some injector cleaner and a good blast down I-25 today to see if I can squeak by. Otherwise, I may have to "move" to Cheyenne.
 
There seem to be a lot of folks here in Wellington that "live" in Cheyenne. If you can increase your boost and introduce more air that may help. I have no cat but closed off my wastegate and I have almost no smoke at all. A little lean but I'm not messing with the fuel until I have at least an EGT gauge. If you care to "move" but retain your CO tags, PM me.
 
Success!! I highly recommend "Lubro Moly Diesel Purge" to pass emissions. Put in a $6 can from NAPA and blasted up I25 for 20 mi or so just before the test. My 60 mph test results went from 52% to 2% opacity.
 
Success!! I highly recommend "Lubro Moly Diesel Purge" to pass emissions. Put in a $6 can from NAPA and blasted up I25 for 20 mi or so just before the test. My 60 mph test results went from 52% to 2% opacity.



I was just gonna offer to let you borrow my DPF to stick in there for the test :-laf
 
Good deal. I'll have to add that to the memory bank for the friends of mine that don't register at my family's mountain property!
 
I have used Houska's for many years with no problems. I just hope that the state is not getting to fussy and clamping down on the tests.



I have even passed with a straight pipe.



I wonder if during this time of year, your engine temp might be a littile low and not burning all the fuel. Just a thought.



I know right now I have a bad thermostst, I can warm the truck up for 20 min. in the morning. Then drive 10-15 miles and its still not up to operating temp.
 
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