Confused: Precision? Moog?

[basfire]

Buying all the parts to beef up my front end. Have ordered Spyntec Shorty, Dynatrac BJ's, an am looking to buy Precision(464) Axel 'U' Joints. When I search for Precision 464 I'm getting Moog 464. Are they the same? Has Moog bought Precision? What's up?

 

[BDaugherty]

They are the same. If you buy them, it's 50/50 which box you get. That's what I'm using. I've only had them for about 10k, but they have held up to light usage with 35's and I grease them at each oil change. I wouldn't use them in the rear driveline, though. The OEM or Spicer cold forged are much higher quality, but it's hard to beat the price.

 

[HHhuntitall]

The Precision brand is Moog? Hmmm. I've had some problems with them in rear drivelines on trucks and farm equipment. If you're putting a lot of torque through them, they don't seem to hold up as well as Spicer/Dana. I don't know if the roller bearings are softer, or maybe the caps, but the roller bearings start shrinking if you over torque them..... You'll probably be fine in the fronts, as they don't see a lot of use, and usually not a lot of torque. And yes, I'm using a quality high pressure grease in them. They were just never designed to take 900+ftlbs torque.



And I don't know on the farm equipment, as I am not the only one that runs it. I only run around 50% of the time, so there could be some grease worm problems there, but I have not had good service from them there, either. I lost a yoke last month when the cap split, puked the needle bearings, and then proceeded to work it's way out through the metal in the opposite yoke. It didn't make any noise until I turned, and then it chunked the lower end of the shaft out, up, and over into the next field, about 80 yds away.....



I also lost three in a mower main drive line in a two day period, as well as a hay cutter... . Orielly's wanted to give me new ones, but I opted to go to the tractor house and get their brand..... No more problems, so far... .

 

[basfire]

I'm leaning towards the Spicer, even though they are not greasable.

 

[NGuzik]

Spicer are all I just on everything. Well worth the money! As an inside joke between my friends we think moog joints are made with old melted down crayons hahah...

 

[Deleted member 995608]

Spicer are all I just on everything. Well worth the money! As an inside joke between my friends we think moog joints are made with old melted down crayons hahah...

Sadly, you are correct.

 

[jgillott]

We've got about 120K on the current set of Precisions on the front of our 04. 5. I was really pleased with those, so I put a set on my '07 last year. I had to replace the right front already with less than 19K on it. So far so good with the replacement but I'm leary of them now.

 

[HHhuntitall]

Spicer are all I just on everything. Well worth the money! As an inside joke between my friends we think moog joints are made with old melted down crayons hahah...

More like melted Carollas... ... . And maybe a Mazda here and there... .

 

[rjones]

Their both made by Federal-Mogul Corp. quality products except the ball joint for our Diesel trucks. . lol