Considering getting Edge EZ 600. Is this wise?

[TCrawley]

I live in Windsor, Ontario and can get an Edge EZ 600 for $469 US is this a good price and how difficult is it to install. Just wondering about transponder located in cab, where do you run wire into cab. Thanks for any help.

 

[LEggers]

Wait for the (Edge juice) unit to come out. They are beta testing now. I have help install two of these units very user freindly to install.

Plug it in route the wires and drill one hole for the EGT thats it.



I am not sure if the EZ is the same thing your talking about just thought I would add the above information.

 

[BRuppel]

if you go over to www.4wheelcustoms.com and get in touch with chris he will make you a better deal than that. i should have mine coming from him within the next week and he made me a smoking deal. beat everyone's prices and gave me free shipping.

 

[PJereb]

TCrawley,

I have a 600 with an EZ, on a mustang dynometer my truck put out 255hp and 510ft/lbs stock at the rear wheels. With the EZ on level three I had 317hp and 645ft/lbs at the rear wheels. The EZ is a pressure box, it is relatively safe and real simple, but does not have the radical power gains of the Edge juice, or TST box.



It comes with a small three way switch, you may choose to leave it under the hood if you want to leave your truck un-altered, or you can run it into the cab. With a manual transmission it isn’t quite as easy as an automatic to get the wires into the cab since you have a clutch master cylinder, the guys with an automatic can just punch out the grommet that is blocking the master cylinder hole. You could drill a hole and use a grommet, or you could unwrap the tape on the factory wiring harness and carefully fish it through with the rest of the factory wiring.



BUT……

Before you use any sort of box you have to get an EGT gauge!

I know that stock I can get my pickup up into the 1300 degree range, and with the EZ box cranked up it is very easy to push your EGT to dangerous levels while towing up grades, or while driving the snot out of your pickup.



My next plan is to spend $400 and get the Piers modified turbo, they claim a 200 degree drop, and recommend it for a pressure box like the EZ. That way I can tow on level 2 or three and put my foot to the floor without having to watch the gauge constantly.

 

[hasselbach]

I've got the Edge Attitude box right now, I'm part of the beta program. All I can say right now is this is a great box. It flat out makes the Cummings haul ass. The monitor is also a very nice addition. You won't be sorry.

 

[mattymac]

I've got the Edge Attitude box right now, I'm part of the beta program. All I can say right now is this is a great box. It flat out makes the Cummings haul ass. The monitor is also a very nice addition. You won't be sorry.

Wow sounds good! But I wonder if they make one for the "Cummins"?



I bet it wont out power the TST though! Infact I know it wont.

 

[Camp]

I was a beta tester for the Edge EZ and I think it is a great product. I tow a fair bit through the mountains here and feel that EGT's are manageable, even on setting 2. Setting 3 really makes the truck go but, I don't think I would tow with it on that setting. The install was super easy as well. Easy enough that I went out at lunch and installed it in our parking lot in about 10 minutes with no tools. I highly recommend this product.

 

[TCrawley]

Thanks for all your help. PJereb, I am getting my EGT installed next week by a friend of mine. Same configuration as yours. I would like to take note of stock EGT's at different rode speeds and driving habits. Then, I will install the Edge. The reason I feel I will go with the guy at $469 is that I live in Canada and do not want to pay duty and handling cost from UPS. The guy lives in Detroit and is only a hop, skip and a jump away. I will see if he will match the above mentioned guys price . Thanks.

 

[MCummings]

not to beat the dead horse...

It flat out makes the Cummings haul ass.

I put one in my backpack the other day, and HOLY COW, you should have seen me. I was running everywhere I went. Didn't even need my truck !



Merrick Cummings Jr

 

[hasselbach]

I put one in my backpack the other day, and HOLY COW, you should have seen me. I was running everywhere I went. Didn't even need my truck !



Merrick Cummings Jr

wow, did you use the optional eye glass mounting bracket to mount the monitor?

 

[MCummings]

I got the ESP transmitter. It lets me automaticly know my exhaust temperature, and velocity (new feature)



Intake temperature has to remain below 40* for water injection. Air quality doesn't matter, as long as it doesn't contain excessive particulates (same with exhaust? ).



Merrick

 

[hasselbach]

I got the ESP transmitter. It lets me automaticly know my exhaust temperature, and velocity (new feature)



Intake temperature has to remain below 40* for water injection. Air quality doesn't matter, as long as it doesn't contain excessive particulates (same with exhaust? ).



Merrick

So I ass-ume that it measures AGT's too?

 

[LEggers]

So I ass-ume that it measures AGT's too?

AGT's = ASS GAS TEMPS?

 

[gsdog1]

I put one in my backpack the other day, and HOLY COW, you should have seen me. I was running everywhere I went. Didn't even need my truck !



Merrick Cummings Jr

I have seen that arse! That's impressive! :-laf



Wonder what it will do for my scrawny rear... . would definitely need the AGT sensor though. :--)





Matt

gsdog1

 

[Buffalo]

I have an '03, HO, 6-sp, 3500 swr, 4X4, with an AFE ProGuard-7 intake system and a Magnaflow exhaust, with an X-monitor (pyro & boost). I've been thinking about an Edge EZ. Some of You are suggesting waiting for the Edge Juice. It has been recommended by TDR members that unless you don't mind upgrading many engine components (turbo's, exhaust manifolds, etc. ), try not to go over 60-70 hp. The EZ ought to do that. Do you think the "Juice" will require more upgrades? Will you be able to, easily, remove the Juice for trips to the dealer? Any of Your thoughts and recommendations would be greatly appreciated. Thank You. Joe.

 

[PJereb]

I think the stock components are near the limit with the Edge EZ. Some will say different, but I really think if you choose a TST or an Edge Juice you will have to do some other modifications, and a turbo swap to get the EGT's down low enough so that you can use the box to its full potential. Sure you can use either box with a stock 600, but you will have to watch your gauges like a hawk to avoid an expensive mistake, or if you have a box like the juice with the attitude it will automatically de-fuel to avoid turning your Cummins into a molten mess. But the whole point of a box like that is to be able to USE it, which I really think is impossible with the tiny stock turbo. Personally I don’t want to completely toss my warrantee out the window (although I accept that I am my own warrantee station since I have chosen to use an EZ), or spend that much money, so I went with an EZ, it is a lot of go for not that much $$$



With the EZ I can tow 8,000 pounds up an 8% grade without pushing the EGT’s into the danger zone (above 1350 for me, pre-turbo). On level two, the EGT’s climb a bit high, so I have to watch the gauge, and on level three it really isn’t practical for towing. After some more time has passed and I have some more $$$ in my slush fund I will get the Piers modified turbo, hell for $400. 00 it is a deal.



For about $650 you can put an EZ and an EGT gauge on your pickup. You can tow to your hearts delight in level one, with caution in level 2, and hot rod around in level three. For an additional $400-500 you can add a piers turbo, knock down the EGT’s and tow to your hearts delight on level one or two, and maybe even three. So for a little over a grand you can have a pickup that will tow all day, be reliable, and not be a time bomb.

 

[RichardTaylor]

I installed the Edge EZ on my 03 2500 4X4 quad Auto trans Laramie. I had already installed the AFE intake and system on it and I sure am happy with it! I set it on level four the second day and have not changed it. It runs strong my fuel economy has increased slightly and it pulls like it was meant too! You won't regret it.

 

[Sarge]

Be very careful, if you add anything to your 600. I have now towed extensively with my stock 600, pulling my 30' fiver. I am pulling at about 20K GCVW when camping ready. I can easily hit 1450* when pulling a grade in 5th gear. The restriction in our trucks is at the turbo, and adding power will add heat in most applications. Keep an eagle eye on the EGT's to avoid disaster.

 

[Moose]

I have seen quite a few ppl mentioning adding a Piers modified turbo. I went to his site to see what was modified about it but couldnt find anything. I know $400 isnt alot but it isnt pocket change either. Does anyone know what exactly is different about it compared to the stock turbo? I was also wondering what kind of MPG inceases (if any) could I possibly look foreward to with a EZ? Any info would be greatly appreciated



Moose

 

[FJfonda]

On my '99, when I added the Van AAken it drastically improved the bottom end response to throttle input. On my 600, I am somewhat dissatisfied with the off the line throttle resonse, will the Edge EZ have a big improvement in initial throttle response?

Also,

Will the EZ improve my mpg any? I am basically happy with the way my rig runs with the exception of mpg's and initial throttle response.