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Well, there have been many questions about cross-over steering on a stock height truck, including ones I asked a couple years ago. The only examples I remember seeing were lifted trucks with droped pitman arms and plenty of clearance for a straight draglink. Well, I finally did it and thought i would show how I accomplished it and what I used to do it.



First off you will notice that my truck is not stock height (2. 5" softride springs), so how can I say this should work fine on a stock truck? Well I build my suspension and steering to use the factory bumpstop location, so it should work fine sitting a little lower.



First the parts I used:

2wd Borgeson steering shaft from Summit Racing about $200

Stock 2wd Pitman arm for 93 Dodge bought from parts.com $80 (factory Dodge parts)

High steer arm from Ballistic Fabrication bought from Poly Performance $135

High steer arm stud kit from Poly Performance $25

4' 1. 5" . 25" wall DOM tubing $40

threaded tuding inserts from Poly performance 7/8"-18tpi 1 LH 1 RH thread $13 each

Jam nuts 7/8-18 1LH 1 RH $4 each

2 left hand thread tierod ends from the parts store that matched my stock tierod. $45 each

1 tierod adjusting sleeve from the parts store for an early 80s chevy 1 ton 4x4 $15

1 5" long piece of 7/8-18 RH threaded rod (made on a friends lathe)



Picture 1 is the steering box moved to the 2wd frame holes, hooked up to the 2wd pitman arm and the Borgeson steering shaft. Pretty cut and dry here the 2wd pitmad arm was used as it fits as tightly to the frame as possible so it does not hit the spring plate as the suspension moves. The picture is a little strange, but the arm really is only about an inch from the bottom of the frame.

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Picture 2 is the draglink I built. Because of the crossmember under the engine the draglink has to be shaped to miss it under suspension compression. Because the draglink is bent I used the Chevy adjustment sleeve to allow me to adjust the length to center the steering wheel (left side of picture). The draglink was shaped to fit then I welded the threaded inserts into the tube, the jamnuts are used to lock the tierod ends into the threaded inserts so they do not loosen or spin.

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Picture 3 is the highsteer arm on the passenger side. This replaces the upper kingpin cap on top of the steering knuckle and can be ordered with the Tapered holes for the tierod ends.

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So there you go, you can do cross over steering on a first gen Dodge and ditch that junk push pull setup with the crack prone steering box mounting plate. I have about 5000 miles on this setup including pulling my travel trailer 4000 miles around the western states and I love the precise slop free steering that I have now. Plus I can replace the tierod ends when they wear out and adjust the steering wheel center which you can't do with the factory draglink setup.
 
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Looks like a job well done. . Very interesting. So does everyone with a stock 4x4 get a cracked frame eventually? What about that doubler plate that they made for the ramchargers?
 
So does everyone with a stock 4x4 get a cracked frame eventually? What about that doubler plate that they made for the ramchargers?



I am not familiar with the "doubler plate" for the steering box on 89-93 trucks. I used to be really big into 73-87 full size Chevy 4x4's. I learned quickly that once you lift one up, you need to buy or build a support bracket for the box. These trucks were notorious for cracking on the frame, behind the steering box. I assume the 1st gen 4x4 pickups have the same issue? I checked mine for cracks but couldn't see anything... ... . kinda hard to look behind the steering box.
 
It isn't the frame that cracks, the 4x4s had a formed plate that stood the box off the side of the frame 1-2 inches. This mounting plate is the part that cracks most of the time.
 
visual inspection.......

Well guys, here are some pics of my front end suspension and steering components. Everything looks pretty nasty and well used! You are looking at 204K+ miles of little-no servicing of anything... ... . real sad. :( I bought this truck from the original owner. I'm wondering where I need to start on suspension/steering overhaul? I need to bring this ol' girl back from the dead. :eek:
 
I'm kinda at a loss on the crossover steering thing. I thought you added a cylinder or something on the other side to reduce power needed to turn it with large tires.

Is this just to reduce strain on the gearbox/ frame mounting area?
 
it does reduce some of the stress but it also adds the option for ram-assist, and, is decreases the bump steer that can come with lifting these trucks - it makes for a lot longer 'drag link' than factory and decreases the travel arch as opposed to the factory link.

There's really no drawback to a crossover setup - good stuff.

- M2
 
Drag link angles

When you fabricated the drag link what were the angles of the bends you made to fit under the crossmember? I am in the process of putting this project together and I need some suggestions? Do you recommend placing more supports at the bend? How is yours holding up? Did you put the stronger bracket on the steering box? Will this bracket fit in the 2wd position? I have a 4x4 with the 2. 5 skyjacker springs. Skyjacker wants way too much for an adjustable drag link and it doesn't help like the crosslink steering. Thanks for the help.

Tim MacIsaac
1993 Dodge 2500 4x4 LE ext cab 5-speed Getrag/3:55/14cm/Fuel pin/2. 5 skyjacker leveling springs/bilstein 5100/Warn hubs
1984 CJ 8 Scrambler completed frame off restoration 2008 but considering 4blt w/ NV 4500
 
There is also a company that you can buy a complete kit for the cross over steering set/up takes less then 2 hour's to self install and work;s really good cost is roughly 450. 00 but it's well worth it google dana 60 crossover steering and they will pop up.
 
Tubing for Dana 60

Most of the kits are made for lifts 4" or greater. I would have to bend the tubing or cut out part of the crossmember to prevent any rubbing. The displayed configuration also has an adjustable link. I also like projects.
 
When you fabricated the drag link what were the angles of the bends you made to fit under the crossmember? (Bent it till it fit, your guess is as good as mine for the angles)

I am in the process of putting this project together and I need some suggestions? (Do it)

Do you recommend placing more supports at the bend? (you can if you like, I don't feel I need any more I used 1. 5 by . 25" wall DOM)

How is yours holding up? (no problems yet)

Did you put the stronger bracket on the steering box? (I trimmed the stock 4x4 bracket to fit inside the frame as a small reinforcement, will build a heavier brace some day) Will this bracket fit in the 2wd position? (what bracket?)

I have a 4x4 with the 2. 5 skyjacker springs. Skyjacker wants way too much for an adjustable drag link and it doesn't help like the crosslink steering. Thanks for the help.

 
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Crossover Steering

Check out Offroad Design, you can buy the complete kit for less than you can do-it-yourself. I priced everything out and figured out that buying the kit was not only easier, but I would wind up saving $$$.

After about 5k, everything is working fine.
 
I'll contact them tomorrow

Thanks for all the suggestions. I think the cross over set up is the best way to go. It looks solid and sounds like the steering improvements are well worth the effort. First I need to return the 2. 5" gas springs 4 wheel parts ordered for me and get the right ones. I'll do both at the same time, again.
 
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