Crysler 300 diesel

[amsoilman]

I am currently in singapore visiting my Daughter and family... ... . seen my very first Chrysler 300 V-6 Diesel. It was being used as a taxi, and the driver informed me it uses BIO-DIESEL for the fuel.

 

[ChrisOlson]

Very interesting

PICTURES?????

 

[HBarlow]

It is probably the Daimler diesel V6 used in MB cars and the German van sold with with MB or Dodge badges.

 

[AH64ID]

We need more of those in the US.

 

[EDankievitch]

Go after your EPA to change the rules and allow these Diesel cars and small trucks into the country.

 

[Regcabguy]

The current President and his EPA have posted their fuel economy mandates for the future which DO NOT include use of clean diesel technology according to the new Truck Trends. NICE!

 

[rscurtis]

The president and the Punishment Agency can post all the mandates they want- if their numbers are to be met, diesel will be part of the solution whether they like it or not. The emission problems have been solved, but the "big" three are of the opinion that diesel cars will not sell in this country. In time, history will show that the US auto industry were market followers instead of leaders once again.

 

[bheiting]

VW and Mercedes have no problem selling diesels in this country. I don't think the EPA is the problem. Pollution laws are just as strict in Europe. Manufactures don't think the public will pay for the higher priced engine and fuel - at least not enough to make it worth their while.

 

[HBarlow]

I think you are mistaken - as usual.

If EPA and other treehuggers put as much pressure on auto manufacturers considering diesel engines as they do on the truck makers, why should they bother?

Consider all the treehugger crap done to our Dodges in recent years. DPFs, catalytic converters, detuned engines producing less power and burning more fuel with inefficient cam timing and who knows what other baloney to please sandal wearing San Francisco residents who ride bicycles and NYers who ride subways. Unreasonable to meet and often impossible fuel mileage standards, etc. etc. All that crap reduces performance, efficiency, service life, and fuel efficiency and costs the manufacturer and the buyer greatly.

Garbage fuel like ULSD that costs fuel producers to produce and provide, biodiesel and ethanol, special blends in some tree hugger cities, the list goes on and on.

And some of our members who are first to defend these braindead governments which force this crap on us are among the first to remove emissions equipment from their trucks in violation of federal law and to avoid paying fuel taxes and road taxes by burning vegetable oil in their trucks.

And we wonder why diesel cars are not readily available.

 

[AH64ID]

Diesel fuel in Europe has more stringent guidelines than here in the US, and is more expensive. I also beleive European emissions are more stringent, yet nearly all of their cars are diesel.

The number one reason there aren't many diesel cars in the US, public perception. Same reason people thing a V8 is better than an I6, they don't know any better.

 

[rscurtis]

People will pay the premium for a diesel engine, but very few can do the math. As Harvey pointed out, the fuel savings in some applications aren't what they used to be, or should be for that matter. The liberal hybrid-oriented media perpetrates the myth that the diesel payback is too long by overlooking their enhanced resale value. The same media will promote certain hybrids like the Chevy half-ton or the Lexus RX 400 or 600, which offer additional power with very little FE advantage and a lot of extra cost. At todays fuel prices, some of them will never pay for themselves. You're carrying around a lot of extra cost and complexity for very little benefit. The wild FE claims of the Chevy Volt and Nissan Versa don't help either, even though they're not necessarily based on real-world driving. Diesel cars routinely beat their EPA ratings.



At least all the media hype about hydrogen vehicles in the last several years has calmed down, as more and more figure out that fuel cell vehicles will always be "just around the corner. "

 

[bheiting]

I think you are mistaken - as usual.



If EPA and other treehuggers put as much pressure on auto manufacturers considering diesel engines as they do on the truck makers, why should they bother?



Consider all the treehugger crap done to our Dodges in recent years. DPFs, catalytic converters, detuned engines producing less power and burning more fuel with inefficient cam timing and who knows what other baloney to please sandal wearing San Francisco residents who ride bicycles and NYers who ride subways. Unreasonable to meet and often impossible fuel mileage standards, etc. etc. All that crap reduces performance, efficiency, service life, and fuel efficiency and costs the manufacturer and the buyer greatly.



Garbage fuel like ULSD that costs fuel producers to produce and provide, biodiesel and ethanol, special blends in some tree hugger cities, the list goes on and on.



And some of our members who are first to defend these braindead governments which force this crap on us are among the first to remove emissions equipment from their trucks in violation of federal law and to avoid paying fuel taxes and road taxes by burning vegetable oil in their trucks.



And we wonder why diesel cars are not readily available.

Geez Harvey, I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition. Never mind, I forgot you won't watch leftist commie public TV.

 

[Regcabguy]

Diesel fuel in Europe has more stringent guidelines than here in the US, and is more expensive. I also beleive European emissions are more stringent, yet nearly all of their cars are diesel.



The number one reason there aren't many diesel cars in the US, public perception. Same reason people thing a V8 is better than an I6, they don't know any better.

Diesel's about a $1. 50/gal. cheaper over there too.

 

[Bob4x4]

The 3 liter MB engine already in the Jeep G/C is not impressive in the fuel economy area. It is only a few mpg higher than the Hemi but less hp. It does have good torque but when was the last time you saw a Grand Cherokee or a300 pull a trailer

 

[HBarlow]

Geez Harvey, I wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition. Never mind, I forgot you won't watch leftist commie public TV.

Yep, you know me well. No leftist commie propaganda for me.

 

[Bob4x4]

Diesel fuel in Europe has more stringent guidelines than here in the US, and is more expensive. I also beleive European emissions are more stringent, yet nearly all of their cars are diesel.



The number one reason there aren't many diesel cars in the US, public perception. Same reason people thing a V8 is better than an I6, they don't know any better.

European diesel has a better cetane than ours,and they also had the common rail diesels long before us as well

 

[AH64ID]

Diesel's about a $1. 50/gal. cheaper over there too.

Cheaper in Europe?



Every thing I can find shows it being about from between $6-8 gal US over there.

 

[Regcabguy]

Cheaper in Europe?



Every thing I can find shows it being about from between $6-8 gal US over there.

Sorry. Eurodiesel is government(can you say taxpayer?) subsidized to the tune of approx. $1. 50/gal over gasoline there. It's still way higher than here.



My friend drove a fullsize Volvo diesel wagon on the Autobahn and was blown away.

 

[RustyJC]

Diesel fuel in Europe has more stringent guidelines than here in the US, and is more expensive. I also beleive European emissions are more stringent, yet nearly all of their cars are diesel.

European emissions regulations target greenhouse gases, specifically CO2 where diesels have an advantage over gasoline engines. US emissions regulations, on the other hand, target smog precursors, specifically NOx along with particulate emissions where diesels operate at a disadvantage as compared to gasoline engines.



Rusty

 

[AH64ID]

Diesel's about a $1. 50/gal. cheaper over there too.

Eurodiesel is government(can you say taxpayer?) subsidized to the tune of approx. $1. 50/gal over gasoline there. It's still way higher than here.

Am I reading your posts wrong or do those statements contradict each other?