Cummins mechanic says to buy a Powerjoke

[hammersley]

Thought you guys may like this one.....



http://forums.thedieselstop.com/ubb...44640&page=0&view=collapsed&sb=5&o=31&fpart=1

 

[JUeckert]

ive been told the same ,not to go buy a ford or gm,but to give the commonrail cummins some time to get issues out of the way. 1 mechanic worked for dealership,the other is my best friend,hes been a certified cummins mechanic since the mid 80,s . most common problem has been the injectors. not that big a deal,except for the fact ,if its not caught in time ,your looking at piston damage.

 

[FATCAT]

Well, I tell ya, with all the injector and common rail problems happening to the new Cummins, I would say we (Cummins owners) were a little quick to jump on Ford and laugh at them ... It seem that the new Dodges are having more problems (percentage wise) then the Fords or Chevy ever did. I gotta say ... I would not at this time purchase one of the new Dodges, especially hearing how DCX is treating customers with problem engines ... I think at least Ford is steping up to the plate and replacing engines or buying back bad trucks ... DCX is apparently telling their customer to go screw off.

 

[rbattelle]

It seem that the new Dodges are having more problems (percentage wise) then the Fords or Chevy ever did.

Is this true?



-Ryan

 

[Kennywould]

Is this true?



-Ryan

I'm with you on this one also???

 

[HOBrian]

Well, I tell ya, with all the injector and common rail problems happening to the new Cummins, I would say we (Cummins owners) were a little quick to jump on Ford and laugh at them ... It seem that the new Dodges are having more problems (percentage wise) then the Fords or Chevy ever did. I gotta say ... I would not at this time purchase one of the new Dodges, especially hearing how DCX is treating customers with problem engines ... I think at least Ford is steping up to the plate and replacing engines or buying back bad trucks ... DCX is apparently telling their customer to go screw off.

Thats funny, I just saw three furds on the side of the road with one driver in the engine bay. I guesss they figure out of the three trucks one should work I think fords percent (on problems) just went up.

 

[Alan Reagan]

Funny. I haven't seen that many common rail problems. Seems like the injectors have been a problem. But the Furd and Cheb guys can't even make fun of those. They have enough injector problems of their own.



Cummins mechanic recommending a Powerstroke. Hmmmmm. He might have. Probably just out of school and hasn't quite got enough experience under his belt to understand reality. :-laf

 

[Will24]

Well, my dad's 04. 5 (7 months old) has over 25k on it and has been back to the dealer ZERO times... I personally don't know of anyone with a 3rd gen that has had injector problems either. I remember reading that only the very first few 04. 5s had the problems, so I don't think it's a very high percentage.





-Will

 

[Rockcrusher]

Diesel Engines

It sure seems strange that Cumins, Detroit diesel, Cat, Merswaydes etc have been making engines for a hundred years and still cant get it right. Whats up with that?

The old Jimy 6-71s would run forever and were easy to work on.

Seems like every time something is improved it takes ten steps backward and wont work worth a hoot.



Just like Lava soap. It used to clean your hands. Now it has been improved so many times a bar of Ivory works as good.



Fuel milage on the new Diesels is lousy. Have to meet EPA standards. Cant figure out how burning more fuel produces less polution.



Anyway, its like the OSHA horse.

If it aint broke, why fix it?

 

[Kennywould]

Ferds are hot, hot, hot... . http://www.globemegawheels.com/servlet/ArticleNews/TPStory/LAC/20050203/RECALLFORD03/cars/

 

[coobie]

Well, I tell ya, with all the injector and common rail problems happening to the new Cummins, I would say we (Cummins owners) were a little quick to jump on Ford and laugh at them ... It seem that the new Dodges are having more problems (percentage wise) then the Fords or Chevy ever did. I gotta say ... I would not at this time purchase one of the new Dodges, especially hearing how DCX is treating customers with problem engines ... I think at least Ford is steping up to the plate and replacing engines or buying back bad trucks ... DCX is apparently telling their customer to go screw off.

Thats funny,going by my dodge dealer today I see they have 4 newer powerstrokes (2003-2004) on the used car lot for sale,must have taken them in trade for the cummins. H,MM that ought to tell you something. :-laf coobie

 

[Alan Reagan]

My "dealer" owns Ford, Chevy, Nissan, Toyota, and associated dealerships throughout this area. His "home dealership" is the Chrysler, Dodge, Jeep dealership.



His observation of late is that the Duramax owners are trading sooner than other truck owners. Followed by Ford. He takes them on trade and then either sends them to the other dealerships or the auction.



He had three Fords last weekend when I was up there and after a week, was getting them ready for the auction because they have plenty of Fords available already.

 

[Ol'TrailDog]

Originally Posted by FATCAT

It seem that the new Dodges are having more problems (percentage wise) then the Fords or Chevy ever did.

Originally Posted by rbattelle

Is this true?

:-laf :-laf Got to give Cat a break. This is symptomatic of the common malady referred to as looking through 12v colored glasses. Often accompanied by distortions (as demonstrated herein), denials (this baby steers just fine), involuntary turning of the neck when a 3G drives by, or worse yet, an "I refuse to look or wave" response when a 3G drives by. :-laf :-laf

 

[FATCAT]

:-laf :-laf Got to give Cat a break. This is symptomatic of the common malady referred to as looking through 12v colored glasses. Often accompanied by distortions (as demonstrated herein), denials (this baby steers just fine), involuntary turning of the neck when a 3G drives by, or worse yet, an "I refuse to look or wave" response when a 3G drives by. :-laf :-laf

Thats a dammed bald face lie! My truck drives as straight as a politician's story. And there are not many G3 that pass me, unless they go over 80 mph ... my max speed limit.

 

[EBottema]

If I had to go buy a new truck, not that I want to since I don't know 1 vehicle on the market that deserves to be called a real Car or Truck.

I would prob go with the GM/Chev Duramax Diesel. They are all around good looking, comfy trucks with a good drivetrain. The duramax is far superior in design to the powerstroke design IMO. The dodge is kind of the ugly cousin IMO. Great engine, great drivetrain but now they ruined it with the new mercedes manual trans and their autos have always sucked. See guys, new emissions laws are doing one thing, making our trucks less reliable and more problemsome. Never had injector issues with a 12V engine. It will only get worse! I'm betting by 2010 Cummins will be phased out in the Dodge trucks, and Dodge will use a mercedes CDI engine similar to the spriner van.

Erik

2nd gens are gonna be gems in the years to come

 

[Alan Reagan]

The thing about them Chebs is they can't keep their lights burning. Just about every one you see has a daytime running light out or a tail light. If they can't get the electrical right for the lights, what are they doing about the engine.



I had a Cheb. Burned up the wiring harness at the firewall when one of the glow plug wires shorted to the block. GM didn't cover it. I got the new harness installed and dumped that dog.

 

[EBottema]

Why would that not be covered?

not trying to make excuses at all but ALL new cars and trucks today have electrical problems. It is really sad but if you talk to any lemon law attorney that is a major complaint with all cars and trucks. Something electrical is causing a problem with the transmission that is suppose to be a mechanical item. Too many sensors and switches, I'm not supprised that chevy is having problems with electronics. I guess there is really nothing good left on the market

 

[Alan Reagan]

They said it was not covered because I had replaced the glow plugs before. The wire was still in the holder but the plastic insulator had broken out and the insulation rubbed off the wire. I didn't take the wire out of the insulator. It happened on the rear of the block, not down where the connector slips onto the glow plug. I never thought to check the wiring harness when I replaced the plugs. Apparently the heat caused the plastic insulator to fall apart. I argued. They won. I fixed the truck and I traded.



It's like Chevy saying that if you buy fuel with a lower cetane rating than they recommend, your warranty is void. How do you know what the quality of fuel is that you are buying? Is it your responsibility as an owner to test before purchase?



I agree, electrical systems are complicated. But lights? Ford and Dodge seem to have solved that problem.

 

[Joseph Donnelly]

From TDR #47 p. 50, the new HPCR engine has been giving less than half as much trouble under warranty than the 12 valve.

 

[rbattelle]

From TDR #47 p. 50, the new HPCR engine has been giving less than half as much trouble under warranty than the 12 valve.

Very interesting. This may be a testament to the mechanically simpler HPCR system.



-Ryan