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Wouldn't you know it. I was changeing my oil today trying to keep my truck in good condition when I touch the alternator with the oil wrench and it sparked. No problem but now the DAMN GEN light is on and the alternator is not charging. I check all the fuses and even the wires on the back of the alternator and everything is ok. Did I blow a diode? I think i may but now it back to the dealer to get a alternator put on under warrenty I hope. I have a 50 dollar deductable so I have to eat the fact that a oil change cost me a lot of money. Be careful when you change your oil!!!! Has any one else had this happen or is it just my damn luck? If anyone knows what else could be wrong please let me know.

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1993 Dodge Prostock Daytona 7:70@172, 1987 Grand National 11:77@115, 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 Dually. Stock with a 5 speed, Home page http://www.home.earthlink.net/~whra3

 

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Theres a big fuse in the fuse box under the hood. This has happened to many others. I think the only place you can buy a replacement is the dealer. I put some rtv on the alternator output wire on mine to prevent this.

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99' 2500 SLT, Quadcab, Long Bed, 4x4, White/Driftwood, Agate Leather, 4WAL, Auto, 241HD, 3. 54 Limited Slip, Bosch 275HP Injectors, Rancho 9000's, Air Lift Super Duty's

 

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Hyper, Good luck with your alternator. Remember, you really don't need to use a filter wrench. If you do it was probably too tight to begin with. When I take my filter off I use rubber kitchen gloves for extra grip. I have never needed the wrench.

 

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Check the 140 amp fuse up near the engine end of the power distribution center under the hood. Its secured with two cap screws. This is probably blown.

Pick up a new one and a spare for the tool box at the dealer. They're about $5. 00 or so.



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98. 5 4x4, CC, 5 spd.
3. 55 LSD, Jacobs E-Brake

 

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When I did that, I couldn't find a fuse , either. I went to the parts store and got something like a 100 amp one, bent the contacts to 90's, reamed the holes, and used that till I could get the one from the dealer. Worked just fine

 

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Originally posted by JJP:
Hyper, Good luck with your alternator. Remember, you really don't need to use a filter wrench. If you do it was probably too tight to begin with. When I take my filter off I use rubber kitchen gloves for extra grip. I have never needed the wrench.

I would be careful just putting it on hand tight. There has been many come loose from the vibration of our motors. I use a wrench and just do it a little over hand tight.



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99, 4x4, slt, 3500,5spd,
3. 54 gears, black,hoswel bale bed, blue box, Pac-
Brake, 5in. sraightpipe, K&N, silencer ring removed, 5 star aluminum wheels,brushguard, Westin nerf bars, blackouts, eclipse stereo, matrix headlight bulbs, blue neon fog lights, KC Daylighter, Dodge splash guards, Lund Cold Fronts

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Hyper;
I blew one of the 30 amp fuses in the power dist. center and when I looked and all fuses "looked" good. When I got desperate and talked to a tech at the dealer, he told me that sometimes a fuse can be blown and it will not really show on visual inspection. , He suggested checking with an ohm meter. When I did I found a fuse that looked good but was in fact blown.

Vaughn

 

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Off subject a little bit, but you are asking for trouble if you hand tighten one of these filters on a Cummins diesel. Tighten it with a wrench relatively tight, or else your driveway may never be the same again... ... ... ...

 

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Just my . 02, I haven't changed the oil yet on my ETH. But I've installed oil filters on a B cummins in my FL70, on the 7. 3 in my previous pickup, and on the Detroit in my big truck (not to mention numerous car and bike motors) hand tight with never a problem. Now, by hand tight, I mean putting some effort into it, not just snugging 'em down. But I've never had a filter come off.

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'01 2500 QC LB 2WD 6sp HO SLT+ leather 3. 54 ltd slp BLACK trailer tow and the all important cab lights. ordered 2/25 arrived 4/13 (for hauling motorcycles)

95 Freightliner FLD132 70" Condo 470 Detroit 13spd 3. 36 (to pay for motorcycles)
89 H-D FXRS, 99 Triumph 955i, 86 Suzuki GSXR750 ltd, 00 Aprillia SL1000

98 Yamaha YZF-R1(race), 95 Kawasaki ZX7(race)

 

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Regarding the tightening procedure of the oil filter: after filling the filter with oil and lubricating the seal with same, thread on filter until contact with the filter mount has been made, plus 3/4 of a turn. I also use rubber gloves to hand tighten the filter the appropriate amount. Be very careful if using a Fleetguard filter, IF you use the red Fleetguard insignia as a basis for reference of the 3/4 turn as there are two of these on the filter case, 180 degrees apart from one another (although one appears right side up, the other one upside down). You could inadvertently leave the filter "loose" if you are not paying attention! I have never had a filter loosen that has been tightened in this manor (I have reference marks on the filter mount and the filter).

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'98. 5 2500 QC 4x4, (BLACK) SLT Sport, ISB, LWB, 3. 54 LSD, A/T, Glasstite Vision II canopy, Line-X spray in liner, 285/75R16 BFG A/Ts on 16x8 M/T Challengers, Warn 4X Boards, Mopar fender flares, front and rear NW Custom stainless steel/rubber mud flaps, Mag-Hytec diff. cover and trans. pan, Edelbrock IAS shocks, Mopar tow hooks, Reese Titan V hitch, Jordan Research Ultima 2020 trailer brake controller, VDO Vision gauges, '00 Sport grille, '00 Sport headlights with PIAA Super White 9007/9004 bulbs, 4-2-7+4 Brite-Box, PIAA Dual Sport 900 auxiliary lights, BD exhaust brake and TorqLoc, Prime-Loc fuel filter relocation kit, Bosch 275 hp. injectors, VA CPC, DD Boost Module, Banks Stinger wastegate actuator, BLACK '00 valve cover, Banks Stinger 4" dia. stainless steel exhaust system, BD LV V10/Cummins hybrid TC and valve body, BD modified transmission front pump and PressureLoc, plus many other trick modifications

 

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I apprieciate peoples concern for thinking I'm not tightening my filter enough but I've changed my oil 16 times now and the filter never even weeps oil. It says turn it 3/4 turn past contact and that's what I do. No wrench necessary. Good luck to all.

 

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Hyper, Same thing happened to me a couple weeks ago. Luckily it was only the 140 amp fuse under the hood at the main fuse box. I had to go to the dodge dealer to get a replacement, and yes I did buy a spare. I am glad these trucks have two batteries. I am not impressed with the poor design and no rubber boot over the hot lead to the altenator.

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1999 2500 24 valve A/T 4x4 loaded SLT Quad Cab Shortbed lim-slip 3. 54

 

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A friend of mine had this happen and it was replaced under warrenty.

 

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Hyper - Sorry to hear ya blow a fuse. The others have pointed you location so check it out.
The only time an filter wrench was used was on the 1st change and I made sure it had a rubber coated handle. Baldwin filter are labled contact base plus 1 turn - Never a problem with hand tight filters coming loose.

 

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SSSparked mmmy alternator a fffew tttimes ww. . www.. . wwwwith nnno ill aaaaffects. Then I stumbled on a plastic-handled tool (at Harbor Freight Tools) with a rubber strap used for removing tight lids etc... Works real well with Cummins oil ffffilters too. Red plastic handle with a black rubber strap about 12" long. You thread the strap around the filter and lock it back into the handle and voila!!! Off she comes! No ssssparks and no fffffuss! Works in both directions #ad
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"Axekicker"
Las Vegas
'00, 2500/QC/SWB, 4X4, A/T, SLT, White/Grey,... Properly Valved.

[This message has been edited by Axekicker (edited 06-26-2000). ]

 

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thanks it was that fuze. Got one from Dodge for 6. 10 and now I am back in the running mode... . thanks to all of you ... you people are great!!!

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1993 Dodge Prostock Daytona 7:70@172, 1987 Grand National 11:77@115, 1996 Dodge Ram 3500 Dually. Stock with a 5 speed, Home page http://www.home.earthlink.net/~whra3

 

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Originally posted by merryman:
I blew one of the 30 amp fuses in the power dist. center and when I looked and all fuses "looked" good. When I got desperate and talked to a tech at the dealer, he told me that sometimes a fuse can be blown and it will not really show on visual inspection. , He suggested checking with an ohm meter. When I did I found a fuse that looked good but was in fact blown.

It is a good practice to check fuses NOT on the Ohm scale, but on the DCv scale. A blown fuse may show as a resistance, which means you still have a bit of continuity, or it may show ok on the ohm scale, but not be able to carry full voltage. If you look at most of the plug in type fuses, you will see that there are two spots of metal exposed on each side. Measure voltage to ground (while installed)on BOTH, if they are equal, the fuse is good. If not, replace it no matter how it looks.

Just my two cents, having been made to look the fool in the past by using the ohm scale to check a simple fuse with a solid cover. Had I used the DCv scale, I would have found the problem imeediately.


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Y2K 2500 QC Sport 4x4 LWB
72 Dart 340
89 LeBaron GTC 2. 2 TI

 

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for those of us using a big hoseclamp and a bungee cord on the filter-can to prevent rotating off, watch that blasted little alternator screw!! I shorted the loose end of the clamp and branded my hand with a neat little curved line. . #ad
. (if it makes me feel any better, I can be happy that the thin metal had enough resistance to heat red without blowing that fuse y'all'r mentioning... no ill effects, except for pain an burnt flesh smell #ad
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98 12-valve qc2500(made in Canada,eh) 4x4/kill-switch, K&N,silencer ring hanging in garage,600amp quick-connect jumper cables, 4"straight-thru 5" chrome slant-cut outlet angled out fwd of rear wheel,PrimeLoc,Warn Front receiver,100Watt offroad lights, 19. 5"Ricksons w/Goodyear Unisteel 159 tires, camper shell, Westin step-rail/nerf bars, diamond-plate rail caps, bedliner,12-V weatherproof outlet hidden inside rear 1/4-panel, B&M remote trans fluid filter on framerail near t-case,whole BD setup(except torque converter) (valvebody,Torqloc,injectors,#5plate,Isspro trans,exhaust temps,and boostguage,exh. brake(60lb)))aux backup lites, ported airbox, 3 snide bumperstickers, Tazmanian Devil mudflaps and floormats--"%$*#)%$^#"-(translation:"TAZ LIKE DIESEL")