Diesel Fuel Additives

[TWilhelm]

I was wondering what many of you think about what the best all-around diesel fuel additives are, and which ones you guys are using. I have a 2006, 3500 single rear wheel truck with 44,000 miles on it and would like to start using a fuel additive on a regular basis but do not know which is the best to use. I have used the power serveice diesel fuel additive occasionally as a kind of suppliment until recently when i used the product as directed for 3 months now and have not seen any noticeable change in mpg or power as stated on the bottle. Although the engine does seem to run a bit smoother i am not completely sold on this particular brand of additive. I live in northwest new mexico where the driving conditions are fairly extreme between winter and summer driving, where summer temps can regularly exceed the 100 degree mark, and winter temps can dip around -5 to -12 for a few weeks at a time. Despite the winter temperatures i have never had a problem with fuel gelling... . ever. Any help on this topic would be greatly appreciated and i would like to thank you in advance for any advice you may be able to offer on this subject.

 

[FourBarR]

I was wondering what many of you think about what the best all-around diesel fuel additives are, and which ones you guys are using. I have a 2006, 3500 single rear wheel truck with 44,000 miles on it and would like to start using a fuel additive on a regular basis but do not know which is the best to use. I have used the power serveice diesel fuel additive occasionally as a kind of suppliment until recently when i used the product as directed for 3 months now and have not seen any noticeable change in mpg or power as stated on the bottle. Although the engine does seem to run a bit smoother i am not completely sold on this particular brand of additive. I live in northwest new mexico where the driving conditions are fairly extreme between winter and summer driving, where summer temps can regularly exceed the 100 degree mark, and winter temps can dip around -5 to -12 for a few weeks at a time. Despite the winter temperatures i have never had a problem with fuel gelling... . ever. Any help on this topic would be greatly appreciated and i would like to thank you in advance for any advice you may be able to offer on this subject.

The subject of fuel addatives is like talking about the best oil to use. Oil wars are brought on by a simple question of whats the best . The answers vary all over the place and is a personal choice. You will get lots of answers and opinions but in the final anaylisis it your choice. I can only relate to my own use which in itself can start a war.

My truck as you can see is a 98. 5 with the famous vp-44. Almost from new I have used marvels mystery oil combined with Howes Meaner in every tank. Is it any good, I really dont know, all I do know is my truck at 546,000kms (325,000k approx ) has original Vp-44 and original injectors. Is it the addatives that are responsible for this, ???? However since everything is working well I continue to use this combination. Is it right for you I dont know,it your choice. All the best with whatever you go with.

 

[AH64ID]

Both my dad (06) and I (see sig) use Amsoil Diesel Concentrate on every tank. It seems to work good for us.



Don't use anything that contains alcohol.

 

[MRaynor]

I've lived in SC where it was not rare to be 100 in the summer and then moved to the Fargo ND area where it was nothing to be -40 in the winter. I currently live in a more moderate climate than that, but it still gets well below zero and sometimes pretty warm. All I use is powerservice for an additive. The silver bottle for summer and white bottle for winter. As far as oil, I only use valvoline premium blue. I havn't had any problems with either truck. Like was said above, it all depends on personal choice. This is only what has worked for me.

 

[HBarlow]

Dodge owner's manuals and the Cummins website always state no additives needed or wanted. I've never used any additive in any of the three Dodges I've owned for about 650,000 miles.

I have added Power Service anti-gel to a tank when overnight temps will dip below 15* but it is very rare that I encounter such low temps.

 

[JExum]

I use power service in the gray bottle for everyday use. It helps my mpgs by about 1-1. 5 increase and it raises the cetane rating 3-6 points. I usually add a 1/3 of a quart bottle to a fill up (25-28) gallons. I have only used the white bottle once its to prevent fuel gelling.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Amalgamated, stay tuned for round 6 of fuel additives are all SNAKE OIL, Even the oil companies put in lube additives so they are selling you SNAKE OIL

 

[HHhuntitall]

Hmm, I have a fleet of trucks, tractors, farm equipment. The best I've seen so far is made my BG Products. I don't personally buy it, the fuel company I buy fuel from in Rule, Tx treats all the fuel they bring in with it. I notice 2-3mpg better economy, 3-7psi higher boost, and less smoke when shifting in my older 12v engines, and just a lot more power in my HPCR engine trucks and older OTR tractors(90 KW, 87 Freightliner, 91 Pete). I've recently removed several pumps from tractors this year, and the three running the BF fuel have been cleaner with less internal wear, despite higher hours(12,000 hours on 875 Versatile, 6900hrs on 876 Versatile, 895kmiles on the Freightliner, 3500hrs on 1460 Combine, 8k hrs on 1466 IH Tractor) Most failure was due to cracked seals leaking air and losing prime. I've run Powerservices for many years, but can't say as I have noticed a marked difference as I have with the BG products. The second best products I have found would be from Royal Mfg. and Stanadyne. Both seem to add a small amount of power and noticably reduce smoke and carbon deposits on pistons, valves, turbo, tailpipes(when breaking down engines for repair). That tells me the fuel is burning better, which I like the thought of... .

 

[PFlory]

Amalgamated, stay tuned for round 6 of fuel additives are all SNAKE OIL, Even the oil companies put in lube additives so they are selling you SNAKE OIL

I've never used any additives in either of my previous or current CTD's, but was reading about and considering the Amalgamated TDR-S additive. Are you saying in your opinion that this as well as all of them are snake oil?



I usually drive 'em like I stole 'em and although I don't have nearly as many miles on mine as Harvey does, I may take his advice and just stick to buying quality fuel from a trusted high volume truck stop and leave well enough alone.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Amalgamated

No my son and I both use Amalgamated and I really like the stuff. My son had his injectors replaced because he wanted more power. The Mech at Cal Pacific Cummins took a look at the old injectors and several of them started using Amalgamated. Thats proof enough for me. The Mechs at cal pac. cummins all said that in their opinion as Mechanics we should use something if we could. I guess the new rigs cant because of the DPF. Its just that in this forum we have the NA AND THE YA sayers of additives it just the new round (6) of yes and no. Its the users opinion but there are people on this forum that have light years more expertise than I about such things that say SNAKE OIL but thats the nice thing about this is its his opinion. I find it makes my motor quiet. I didnt experience the HUGE milage gane or the tire burning power that only big tires and superman can control. I guess it boils down to one thing its your truck your money and your peace of mind I guess thats three things. Hope that helps BIGNASTY PS if you drive them like you stole them look at the people that gripe about the Dodge and how big a PICE OF I TRIED TO BY-PASS THE CUSSING FILTER it is and then look at what they have done to make them that way. I mean really 1 power box isnt enough they have to add 2 and get 2 turbos and more stuff than the space shuttle had on it and when it brakes they get PO and the truck is at fault. but it goes back to its their truck . And it is fun to GO FAST its just big bucks that I spend on other things

 

[BIGNASTY]

Another BIGGIE that runs additive

Another big company that runs truck's and put's an additive in the fuel. FED EX GROUND. Valvtect is the name of the additive. The fuel is ran in truck's that have the afterburner exhaust system's. Both company and O/O's. A guy that I used to work with bought his own truck and is working for FED EX. They run the stuff Nation wide so it's in his truck ALL THE TIME and has had no ill effects with it in 300K miles. ValvTect - Diesel Guard So it must be some pretty sophisticated SNAKE OIL not to clog their filters?

 

[Mhannink]

ah64id i think said the most crucial thing, that is avoid anything with alcohol. other than that try a few different types and see what you like best. poke around the internet for tech data on ones you like, there can be some good information in them, also see what others are using and what results they have seen.



personally i use schaeffer oil's diesel treat 2000. it is the only one i have used that i can really see an effect from. engine is quieter and smooth, fuel mileage is up, and egt's dropped about 50 degrees. its also pretty cheap when compared to some of the others. 1 gallon treats 2000 gallons of diesel, thats . 064 oz per gallon thats 5 ten-thousandths (. 0005) of a gallon. if i remeber right that is 1 penny per tank of fuel. its hard to say that, that amount increases operating costs. i just ordered some more and i can give you a more accurate cost figure when i get it in. it all boils down to personal preference though.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Amalgamated, Powerservice Grey, Howes meaner power cleaner. Amsoil Cetane Boost.

 

[bheiting]

Fleet Guard's fuel conditioner has the best lubricity rating I've seen, outside of bio diesel. If Cummins sells it, I'll buy it.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Amalgamated when using Dino Diesel TDR S AND THE WINTER BLEND

 

[Yo Hoot]

I've been running Primrose 405 for years. I used it in my 2001 Duramax for 65,000 miles and in my current Dodge for 114,000 miles and have yet to have an injector go.

 

[MoparDave]

For what its worth i use FppF products.

 

[GHarman]

Worth a dig up and repost

Lubricity study originally posted by another TDR member. GregH



Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

 

[MikeW.]

Dodge owner's manuals and the Cummins website always state no additives needed or wanted. I've never used any additive in any of the three Dodges I've owned for about 650,000 miles.



I have added Power Service anti-gel to a tank when overnight temps will dip below 15* but it is very rare that I encounter such low temps.

I agreee that they say no additives are needed but my '05 started a miss at idle when first started after the advent of ULSD, ran fine afterwards. A little Power Service and the miss went away, been adding ever since.

 

[Mhannink]

Lubricity study originally posted by another TDR member. GregH



Lubricity Additive Study Results - Diesel Place : Chevrolet and GMC Diesel Truck Forums

that was a very interesting read. my favorite was just shy of the 460 standard. seems 2% bio fuel makes a huge difference. maybe ill go get some cooking oil and add a little in at least every once in a while