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BHAF on a 1st gen??

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I check my diff oil each week (200/500 mile intervals), it has a consistant light grey/black color mud accumulations on the magnet dipstick. No pieces of metal, just the a kind-of-mud. Is this thing going to melt down on me soon :confused: I only haul about 500# a few days a week. Thanks for any insight :D TDR is a great resources, and for a good laugh. "Stop turning the light on in driveway, and going outside every fifteen minutes, you can play with your truck in the morning. " :-laf

Patrick.
 
OK, You caught ME!!

I frequently check my truck... what can I say. I'm an addict too.



I see theblack mud accumulation on gear boxes of many different makes. They still operate normally. I cannot say if I see it on my trucks, but then I change the diff oil every year (about 10/12K miles) So, it probably does not have time to accumulate.



It's wear metal that your seeing. The engine oil has it too but you change that much more often (so it's not as noticable) and the oil filter collects some of it.



It comes from the gears/bearings and possibly the clutch pack if it has metallic composition (locking diff assy)



Good to hear from you... ... ... .....
 
Patrick,



You've been quiet lately. I'm glad you enjoyed my feeble attempt at humor. But really. Didn't we all have a "kid at Christmas" feeling when we got our first CTD?



As to the gear oil. I check mine ever couple of years... . up until I had an axle seal fail on a road trip and cooked the bearing on the port side. I check it every month or so, but look underneath for leakage just about every day now. I changed my oil last summer, after about 7k miles from the rebuild on the rear end. I will change it again this summer.



Don't forget the friction modifier if you are an LSD guy..... no, I didn't mean Timothy Leary (for you young guys, I'll explain later. )
 
Melt down with 500 lbs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Now that is really good for a laugh. I have just completed a repair on my high miles 93 rear axle. Only got 500k miles. Actually this is the second time in about a year (and in the 500k miles).



I was pressed for time and did a patch job about 40k miles back. I didn't pull the pinion and I should have so this time I did it all. You don't say what your miles total is but unless you have experienced a low oil problem or racked up LOTS of miles, you would have to be very unlucky to be about to have a problem. Things do happen though. I have an axle with only 180k miles that had the bolts that hold the (LSD) diff halves together start to back out. Only four were tight. Three were backed out and bent. One was broken out and pieces in the bottom of the housing.



So do more than look at a dipstick. Remove the differential cover on a minimum 100k mile interval and look it over good. Check for side play on the carrier. The bearing on the gear side is the weak link. I have another axle that almost lost the gears because of the gear side bearing going out. In fact a 50k mile interval would be better, more as the truck racks up high miles. In the pre diesel days, the dana 60 or 70 was quite good for the full life of the engine. But with the torque monster Cummins (I stole that phrase from Michael Miller) the 70 is going to need some service before the engine dies. IE, this is not your daddy's truck.



I mentioned 'weak link'. Actually the exceptionally weak link is/are the rear hub seals. As Tugboat can verify. And that leads to the next comment.



I check my transmission and differential every time I get out of the truck. How you ask? It is really quite simple. transmission and diff lube has a very distinct odor. Tune your senses to anything that even smells out of the ordinary and you will know right away that there is a problem. When you get back in the truck, ALWAYS notice under the truck. There should be some water from the AC and there should be nothing else in the way of a puddle under your truck. If the wheel seals are leaking, there will be odor and there will be wet (actually oily) patches on the insides of the tires. I do this even on the low miles 93. It is just second nature to me as I have always been the one who had to do the repair as well as do the paying for whatever parts were required.



Keep a healthy mixture of antifreeze even if you never experience freezing temps. It will alert you in the same way if there is a coolant leak.



Been a while since I got any warm fuzzy feeling looking at my trucks but I see one with fresh paint now and again. It always gets my attention. I am putting some miles on a 97 but I am definitely a first gen man.



James
 
Diff info...

Thanks James, Phil, and Greenleaf. I'll check my milage charts for my next diff-oil change and make sure I do a once over on the items mentioned ;) . My truck has 210K plus miles right now :D . It never ceases to amaze me how TDR folks can relate the restoration details of our rigs in print.

Good Job!

Patrick
 
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