Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Difference between V-10 and CTD transmission?

[rblomquist]

Gentlemen,



Does the V-10 use the same transmission as us or is it a completely different model?



Would it be possible to direct bolt-up a V-10 trans into a CTD?



Thanks in advance.

 

[Phil Stuart]

From what I've read in the FSM and other sources, they both use the same auto. trans.

Now about the bolt pattern,I couldn't tell ya.



Phil

 

[Barry]

I have often been puzzled by the V10 and the CTD using the same trannie. Why does a 230HP CTD tear up trans faster than a 300HP V10? I know what has been explained to me but it still makes me wonder about the hype of the V10... ... ... ...

 

[WebCrush]

The transmission's are designed for gas engines, so the CTD isn't able to spin it at it optimal rate, fluid heats, things break.

 

[RankRam]

Barry, my thinking is that the low end tourqe of the Cummins would be credited for the failures on the auto equipped trucks.

 

[RustyJC]

Our 1996 V-10 3500 was rated 300 BHP @ 4000 RPM and 450 ft-lb torque @ 2800 RPM. Compare this with the Cummins of your choice. Even if it's an earlier Cummins that was rated lower than 450 ft-lb torque, chances are the RPM at which peak torque was produced was 1600 RPM or less - the high torque at low RPM characteristic of the Cummins is much harder on the transmission than the high RPM (relatively speaking) V-10.



We towed heavy 5vers with our 1996 3500 V-10/automatic and never had any transmission problems.



Rusty

 

[rblomquist]

The reason why I ask is that the old lying bag of **** that I purchased my truck from told me that way back at 40k he blew the transmission, then the dealer installed a V-10 transmission (not knowing any better), then it blew right away because it was for the V-10, and then the dealer put the "right" one in (the current transmission I have).



Also, I have a fresh data sticker under the hood talking about the re-flash and they wrote 46RE on the sticker.



So here I am looking at potential aftermarket mods/or wholesale change-out and I don't know if there's even such a thing as a 46RE or V-10 transmission but knowing my luck I'd take the truck to get a good aftermarket transmission and they'd tell me I couldn't core-exchange it because it wasn't a apples-to-apples swap, or just as bad take it to someone for rework and discover the same thing (after it's all apart).

 

[Cummins4Life]

If they put a 46RE behind your Diesel no wonder it blew, the biggest engine it came with was the 360 gasser. If it is a "v-10" transmission its a 47RE same as the diesel gets.

 

[rblomquist]

The TSB reflash was only done less than a year ago (right before I bought the truck). Is there a way to crawl up under and look at a code on the transmission to tell i. e. is 47RE embossed in the side somewhere like our engine block code?



Thanks again for the help!

 

[Cummins4Life]

http://dodgeram.org/tech/transmission/4xre.htm

Transmission identification numbers are stamped on the driver side of the case flange just above the oil pan gasket (just below the TV lever). There will be a 9 digit part number, a space, a 4 digit build date, a spave, and a 4 digit serial number.



4 = 4 forward speeds

6 = strength of trans. (1-9, higher number, stronger trans. )

R = Rear wheel drive

H=Hydraulic controlled, E = Electronic controlled shift

 

[rblomquist]

I'm missing something here. Crawled up under the truck and pulled the numbers. I can't make heads of tails out of what they were saying the numbers meant from the link above. I didn't see the same number of digits they were talking about. I'm not seeing the 9 digit code they mention, the build date code, the "R" for real wheel drive, or the "E" for electronic controlled.



I found the stamped numbers above the lip of the pan and in addition, there are 2 different stickers on the transmission with codes/verbage on them.





Stamped #s: PK 52119828AB 3229 6625



Barcoded sticker on the rear of the trans says “New Process Gear” and has the following #s:



52118158 AB184775



Barcoded sticker above where the stamped #s are (almost to the top of the trans):



1st set of numbers: TPK 323956625



2nd set of numbers: P52119828AB





Went across the street and pulled the #s from my neighbors 01 and his read as follows (his numbers that differed from mine are in red):



Stamped #s: PK 52119851AB 0120 6600



Barcoded sticker on the rear of the trans says “New Process Gear: and has the following #s:



P52118158 AB868423



Barcoded sticker above where the stamped #s are (almost to the top of the trans):



1st set of numbers: TPKTKO120566



2nd set of numbers: P52119851AB





Thanks in advance to anyone that can make head/tails out of this for me. Again, just want to verify that I actually have a 47 RE in there and not anything else fishy from the previous owner.