Do ford trucks have different "generations" like our Dodges?

[Spooled-up]

I am trying to organize my website, and was wondering if they classify Ford trucks as having different generations.



I know that 2003 to 2006 is the 6. 0L



'99 to 2003 was the 7. 3L



Anyone know how to classify these things like we do?



Thanks.

 

[Bloomy]

The ford's do have different generations relative to the Powerstroke. I can't give you the breakdown since I'm a CTD freak, but the first PSD came out in 94. They had changes from then until the 6. 0 came out in 2003. I can't offer much more than that.



thomas

 

[onestackdram]

yeah i can classify them for you



they started out like crap

then they build a fairly respectable (not a cummins but respectable) engine

then they built the current crap

and the rumours are they are going to try more crap in 07

 

[DBogo]

well the old IDI's dont got much of a classification besides that the 94-97 powerstrokes were called the OBS trucks (old body style) then theres the super doodies

 

[DonTX]

there were two distinct generations before powerstroke, I owned both of them, pretty sorry stuff. Seems like it was a 6. 9 then a 7. 2, then the 7. 3 non powerstroke, then the 7. 3 powerstroke in 94, quite a revolutionary engine really, I had one I liked, the power and economy was really amazong. Then there is the 6. 0 which I understand isn't doing too well.



Someone will fill in the years I am sure. I am old, forget such stuff.

 

[Bloomy]

Alright, here's some more info:



1993 was the last year of the 7. 3L IDI. This year had a turbo while the previous years did not. But, it was not a PSD.



1994 was the first year for the PSD. In 98 (99 model year) the Super Duty series was created along with the additions of F450's and 550's. The engine had some modifications compared to the 94-97, but they were primarily a result of emissions.



In 03 we saw the sad introduction of the 6. 0L. There have not been to many changes in power or anything else since the 6. 0 has come out. Can't run at the power it has now so it will remain in last until the next version arrives, even then it will never compare to the CTD or the other competition for that matter. Anybody see where Chevy truck sales passed Ford F-Series for 05?



Thomas

 

[Rescue Ram]

there were two distinct generations before powerstroke, I owned both of them, pretty sorry stuff. Seems like it was a 6. 9 then a 7. 2, then the 7. 3 non powerstroke, then the 7. 3 powerstroke in 94, quite a revolutionary engine really, I had one I liked, the power and economy was really amazong. Then there is the 6. 0 which I understand isn't doing too well.



Someone will fill in the years I am sure. I am old, forget such stuff.

I have never heard of a 7. 2L Navistar...



I, personally, had very good luck out of both my 6. 9L and my IDI 7. 3L. They were extremely slow, but they did get the job done and were relatively easy on fuel compared to a 460.

 

[DonTX]

That seems right

I think it is coming back now. I know the 6. 9 seemed underpowered, for pulling a full horse trailer over the hills, so we jumped at the chance to get the new bigger more powerful one (7. 3 non turbo I think), and then the Cummins.

My own personal opinion was that the automatic transmissions appeared to be way off on shift points, I think they were gasoline models pressed into use. Finally got smart and got CTD with a 5 speed, it seemed to do the job much better.

Much later got a Powerstroke with automatic, E4OD if I recall correctly. By that time they had it all sorted out, was powerful and economical.

I must admit, unlike my present Cummins, they all started just fine! :-laf :-laf

 

[biggieou]

I admit I know quite about the Ford's as I am a Ford man. Sorry guys I always have been, always will be, but my diesel allegiance is w/Cummins! Now while the original 6. 9 IDI(indirect injection) diesels may be dogs in their original state, they got great fuel mileage and started the whole "diesel thing" in our light duty trucks. If my memory serves me correctly, the 6. 9 was first introduced in 86 the last year of that body style Ford. Then in 88 or 89 the 7. 3 IDI was introduced. Again it was a dog w/the lack of a turbo, but it got decent mpg's and had quite a bit more power then the original 6. 9. As Don said those trannys in those trucks were something else. I think that those diesels were coupled with C6's and they just dont shift right in my opinion with the diesel engine. Some might say that our Dodge transmission's shift strange, but anyone who's driven those older Fords knows what I am talking about. In 1993 the 7. 3 was turbo charged and had true fuel injection. In 1994 the PStroke was born. It was the same 7. 3 turbo, just with computers controlling everything. Sometime around the advent of the PStroke, Ford started using the E4OD and let me tell you, those trannies are just as bad as the worst Dodge transmission. Of course then in '03 the ill-fated 6. 0 was launched half-way through the model year.



Now the original 6. 9 was in the 80-86 Bodystyle and I believe carried over a year or two.

The 7. 3 IDI was used in the 87-91 bodystyle and in 92 when the grill changed.

7. 3 Turbo was 93, same grill as 92

7. 3 Pstroke 93-98 bodystyle 99-03 Super Duty

6. 0 Pstroke 03. 5-Current



Sorry if this was a long post

 

[1smoknC]

yeah i can classify them for you



they started out like crap

then they build a fairly respectable (not a cummins but respectable) engine

then they built the current crap

and the rumours are they are going to try more crap in 07

alright, you got me ******. im going to laugh like hell when dodge looses the contract with cummins. then youll have a ****ty truck with an even ****tier motor. LMAO!!!! dodge trucks are ****ty, the only thing dodge has going for them is cummins. if ford would have the contract with cummins, ford would dominate period.



sorry, you got me ****** and im not takin that bull****

 

[OL RATLR]

alright, you got me ******. im going to laugh like hell when dodge looses the contract with cummins. then youll have a ****ty truck with an even ****tier motor. LMAO!!!! dodge trucks are ****ty, the only thing dodge has going for them is cummins. if ford would have the contract with cummins, ford would dominate period.



sorry, you got me ****** and im not takin that bull****

If a bullfrog had wings he wouldn't bump his ,a55 when he jumped

With all the lay off's at Ford you may have to get you a Dodge. :{ :

 

[obert]

?? Are the dates above model year or real time dates?

I know of a 93 f250 with 7. 3idi. (really is a V444). A guy I used to pull tractors with had a 94, and that was IDI, but with turbo (a VT444). I thought the electronic VT444E was put in 95's, and ford dubbed it the powerstroke.



Not a ford guy, but I have respect for International. (they recently dropped the "navistar" tag). Perhaps some one could clear my fog?



BTW 6. 0L= VT365E

 

[CMullen]

alright, you got me ******. im going to laugh like hell when dodge looses the contract with cummins. then youll have a ****ty truck with an even ****tier motor. LMAO!!!! dodge trucks are ****ty, the only thing dodge has going for them is cummins. if ford would have the contract with cummins, ford would dominate period.



sorry, you got me ****** and im not takin that bull****

Dream On I had a super duty and it wasnt impressive, Furd execs wouldnt realize a good deal if they saw one, so if Dodge ever did loose cummins, they would miss the opportunity :-laf

 

[Grizzly]

alright, you got me ******. im going to laugh like hell when dodge looses the contract with cummins. then youll have a ****ty truck with an even ****tier motor. LMAO!!!! dodge trucks are ****ty, the only thing dodge has going for them is cummins. if ford would have the contract with cummins, ford would dominate period.



sorry, you got me ****** and im not takin that bull****

I don't agree with you. I've had Ford and I'll never have another. I like the Dodge truck much better then a Ford regardless of the engine. However, I do think that Cummins is the best engine ever made, gas or diesel.

 

[JUeckert]

1983 to 1987 was the 6. 9 diesel. ,trannies were the c6 auto,which was a good one,manual was a 4 speed that didnt have a very good low takeoff gear[granny]but otherwise was ok. latter year 6. 9 engines also came with 5spd trannys. basicly the same as the 4spd but with od. late years also had a auto od also,if any changes were made to the engine[power]then the transmission had to be programed or it would puke. banks offere a programmer to do this. 87 was also a year for a little body change. 88 saw the introduction of the 7. 3,a different 5spd transmission[still didnt have a granny]the same auto od transmission,and the new heavier f450 trucks. 7. 3 was basicly the 6. 9 with several changes. 92 saw another body change that went all the way to 97. 93 the idi turbo was a option[7. 3]as well as the orig 7. 3. 1994 was the first year of the powerstroke. in 94 ford offered the 7. 3,7. 3turbo and the 7. 3 powerstroke. the early powerstrokes were completly different from the 7. 3 turbo or the 7. 3 n/a. they had some teething probs with injectors and air cleaner problems. [if you ran the filter a little bit dirty,the seal would suck in on the cleaner houseing]it was also easy to put on improperly. 1996 there was a recall on the problem. 1996 was also the first year ford had a manual transmission behind a diesel,that had a true low first gear. there was no 98 model heavy 3/4,1ton series. 99 was the body style of today,and a change up of the injectors on the 7. 3 , [here again they had some troubles],it was also the begining of the 6spd trannys, the intercooler,and a different turbo,and a different automatic. memory serves,99 was the first year of the 550. 03 was the last year of the 7. 3,and the first year for the 6. 0 which brought it's share of troubles,and me to buying a 05 cummins. long story short,there were 4 totaly different body styles between 1980 and 05. actually 5 if you count the 05 grill change.

 

[1smoknC]

well i had my flame suit on, i new i was posting in a dodge forum, so what can i expect. think what you want to... . theres still more ford trucks out there than any other kind

 

[Spooled-up]

How does that go?



"Ford has more trucks on the road than anyone else"



Dodge actually makes it back to the house.



Something like that. :-laf :-laf

 

[DonTX]

Definitions

I don't know if it is true or not, someone told me that the new models will have a period after each letter, like this: F. O. R. D.

The reason as we all know is that it really is an acronym for Fix Or Repair Daily (or was it Found On Road Dead?). I can't remember. :-laf :-laf

 

[blacksheep4x4]

alright, you got me ******. im going to laugh like hell when dodge looses the contract with cummins. then youll have a ****ty truck with an even ****tier motor. LMAO!!!! dodge trucks are ****ty, the only thing dodge has going for them is cummins. if ford would have the contract with cummins, ford would dominate period.



sorry, you got me ****** and im not takin that bull****

Sorry, but fords truck isn't any better than thier current diesel. I do know this because I owned 2005 f-450 Man what a P. O. S. !

My 2003 Dodge 1-ton stood up to more punishment than that turd ever could hope to. No make that dream to!

I'll never step foot in another furd dealership ever!

 

[onestackdram]

I am still curious how Ford can claim to have more trucks on the road than anyone esle? Are they counting all the oval emblems laying in ditches across the country? I am willing to grant the pre-89 dodge was nothing more than a forgone thought. But lets think about this a min. that was 17 years ago. I am curious what the sales number of Dodge Diesel vs. Ford Diesel (any of their failed attempts at an engine) vs. Chevy Diesels (atleast they have figured it out and are a worthy competitor) since 1989.



Some one please answer that