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About this time last year I installed the Jannetty 4 inch exhaust system. It is a full four inches to the rear and flows through a stubby Walker muffler. Its a straight thru design, but it has a chamber inside as well.

I have always had a terrible drone on the highway that will drive you crazy. I have 4:10 gears as well and this moves my RPM up a tad over most guys on here.

I tried everything to kill the drone. I welded on a piece of angle to the long straight pipe from the turbo to muffler. I tried clamps and welding. Clamps alone. Wleding alone. Nothing worked. After about two months of this I gave up and cut the whole mess out and started over. I removed the muffler and straight piped it.

It killed the drone but it was just a bit too loud on the highway.

Out it all came again. This time I went with two 4" mufflers that were called Twisters. They are straight through but they have a twisted piece of steel inside to spin the exhaust gas as it travels throught the muffler to develope a low pressure area to help scavenge the pipe faster. Well, either they are junk or having two of them was too much restriction. I lost about 50 or more HP it seemed. So off they come and back to the drawing board.

It was super quiet with the Twisters though.



I called around and got the last Walker 21471 muffler from the local NAPA here in Big D. I ripped out all the pipe and started from scratch. Used some existing pipe and bought some new stuff too.

After I welded all the joints up and used the Walker 21471 muffler I can tell you the drone is history and I got my power back I lost from the Twisters. That was a very long and expensive learning experience. BTW, the Walker is what DD uses and I got the idea from Donnelly on what the heck I could do to fix it right.



Don~
 
Sly Bones, yeah actually both mufflers I used from Walker were 4" in/out. The first one with the Jannetty kit was a shorter Walker with a chamber in it. It was still a straight thru type, but it had a small chamber inside.

The second Walker was a big long fella about 34 inches I believe.

It is a straight thru type as well, but it has no chamber and the pipe... just has a holes or perferations through it inside the muffler housing. It is suprisingly quite and worked to kill the drone in my truck.



Don~
 
Don,



Are you basically back to the Jannety system, 4" tip to tip, just with a longer muffler in the same spot where the shorty was?
 
Ok ... I was going to add another shorty to the system to get rid of the drone. Nada need to, just go get the 21471 & pop it in in place of the shorty. Oo.



Well then ... Don ... you're about out of things to dick with. Do I see a B-1 in your future?
 
Prolly not by itself if I do another turbo it will be twins. The B-1 might be a good candidate for one of the two turbos, but without compressor wheel maps or data I dont see how I could do it.



At the present time Im sawing up a 12 valve head to see what I can do with it. Lots of cool things in the way of air upgrades. Problem is... . you cant apply gasser technology to the diesel engines worth a dern. Might as well throw all that out the window and take a guess at what to do.



Lots of figures floating around the computer and I am drawing some designs in CAD to see what I can come up with.



Don~
 
I never had a drone noise, couldn't figure out what it sounded like till I put an HX-40 on. Major drone. :D



Never had a drone with an HX-35 12cm2.



Don, Do you have a good source for bare 5. 9L heads? I'm thinking of buying one now and starting to port it. I read that they weigh 200 lbs. This will kill me if I have to pay shipping.
 
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Hi Bill,



No source on the B heads. Sorry Bud. You might try the local bone yards. A good head is tough to find. It was not easy deciding to chop one up. Many of the used heads have some cracks in the seat area.



Bare B heads without valves are about 124 pounds. Not sure where the rumor of 200 came from. Maybe after you crate it all up good to ship it..... might be close to 200 then.



I hate drone... I used to wanna punch someone after a few hours on the highway with that racket. Its all gone now. Piers HX40 is cool stuff, BTW.



I have no HP increase from a ported head. Just lower EGT's. maybe more HP will come after I turn up the fuel some more by helping burn it better.



Don~
 
Drone is gone (Walker 21471)

Don,



I just ordered a Walker 21471 for my truck (mine is a 96 2wd extended cab long bed auto with 3. 54’s) to get rid of the drone. Your post was of great interest/information to me. My system is 4” from about the trans cross member back. I started out with the cat test pipe and just a short Dynomax race muffler. Like your truck it had drone at 70-75 mph (interstate cruise speed) so I put a gutted cat back on and like yours I moved the drone to 65-68 mph (hwy cruise). I then removed the cat and installed an after market resonator. The drone was still there. My last try was to install a 15” section of 4” flex pipe just ahead of the resonator. The drone is still there at about 1700-1800 rpm!!!!! So I was really happy to see that you were able to kill your drone. My first question is your truck an extended cab with a long bed? My second question is did you put your new Walker muffler in the stock muffler location just behind the factory hanger that on my truck was between the cat and muffler? I’m going to have it welded in this time so I would like to get the location right. Any information you have would be of great interest to me. Thanks for your time.



Don Ferguson Jr.

Email: ferguson-dr@redstone. army. mil
 
Don, I moved the muffler forward from the stock location a bit too. About 12 inches or so from the stock position forward worked well for me.

The long walker muffler I used was the ticket to help me.

I have tried everything. It seems the Cummins has a certain vibration or harmonic at the 2000-2200 rpm range and it is extremly hard to get rid of. NAPA has the 21471 muffler.

I think the dynomax is a chambered muffler, you dont wanna use that dude. Chambered mufflers are drone makers, IMO.





Good luck,



Don~
 
The HX55 is designed for 5" exhaust. Do you think a 5" downpipe can be put on a Ram? Whaddaya think about the little Walker 21835 resonator 5" in and out, about 12" long core as a drone maker :D How much noise do you that big a turbo can make through that size pipe?



Come to May Madness;)



I have a couiple extra bare heads :D
 
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DonM:



I have the Walker #21471 muffler on my 96' which

came with the Diesel Dynamics exhaust system. I

purchased the system through Joe Donnelly and

am very happy with the system! No drone at all

and as the muffler has gotten some miles on it

I think it sounds even better. I am glad you

finally were able to eliminate the drone.



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John_P
 
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