Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) Edge Comp Auto, Minimal Smoke?

[Piston Slapper]

Recently installed Edge Comp. Question lack of smoke. I thought would blow more than it does. Figuring it is due to the Auto trans. Had failing lift pump. 8 idle, 5 70 floor it with Comp 0psi if anything ? x 5.



Installed new lift pump. Major PITA! Studs threaded loosed from pump, not the nuts. Anyway... .



After new pump install, now have 15 idle, 13 cruising, suck it down to 8 psi on 5x5 floored. Question is lack of smoke. Power is good and it does smoke, but just a few seconds of gray haze no real black stuff. Maybe just a brief black balloon size then just gray haze. Although this is a good thing for performance, it means I ain't got enough fuel! Pyro can hit 1200's floored but can't get it past 1250 even floored going up hills in 5x5.



Sound right? I thought it would smoke more? I thought it would run hotter?

 

[Bob Wagner]

either the comp is shot or you have a bad pump wire connection



which method did you use to tap the pump wire? did you tap the right wire?

 

[Piston Slapper]

I used the supplied scotch lock. It fuels more, I assume on lvl 5 vs lvl 1 due to smoke. Don't smoke at all on lvl 1 or 2. Minimal smoke on lvl 5. It'll smoke for about 5 secs, but no real dark. Just gray stream after initial littel black puff ball. Pulls alot harder on lvl 5, than lvl 1 though. ACtually can tell a difference with all the different lvls. Seems to have a good wire connection. I was going to pull it off tonight to check the insualtion to assure it pierced. I tapped the wire closest to the block of the two going into the pump.

 

[Bob Wagner]

did you also adjust the sub-level to 5 ?

 

[Piston Slapper]

I have all the levels on ? x 5. yes, the sub level is on 5 also. It might be my perception of "alot" of smoke. I was just under impression it would generate lots of smoke on 5 x5 with my stock turbo.

 

[Bob Wagner]

you should be able to blow some major black soot, something not right



good luck, edge has great customer service

 

[Piston Slapper]

Spoke with Arin/Erin at Edge. If you can tell it is faster on the higher levels that this is a good thing. Your Turbo is doing what it is supposed too. He said I just need some bigger injectors! I agreed. DDIII's coming at ya!



I'll try to get a pic of the smoke show so ya'll can see what I am talking about... .



Thanks for the help..... I love you guys... I know, I still can't have your Suds!

 

[greyghost]

Piston Slapper



What did you do to earn that name. Wait maybe I don't wanta know. Anyways mine did the same. Dropped in some RV 275s and let the smoke show begin. However the smoke show I got out at the local track a weekend ago, man those guys got smoke.



Garrett

 

[Bob Wagner]

here is 2's and comp

#ad

 

[greyghost]

Yep just like that, some guys I know were having a hard time seeing the Starting Tree thru all that soot.



awesome pic





Garrett

 

[Piston Slapper]

My smoke looks like the very top right hand part of your smoke cloud. The part with the SKY as the background. Just thought it would smoke more than it does. I think injectors will help!



I like the handle Piston Slapper as this is why diesels sound like they do. I always loved the sound of a diesel. Especialy a real Diesel like ours. The combustion process of the fuel smacking the piston. Gives it that knock! Love it! Yeah, it's a diesel, a good ol piston slapper!



Like somebody said here before, "That thing sounds like the pistons are trying to swap holes!" I was all !

 

[WadePatton]

I can make a bit of smoke with stock injectors. Gap, did I do any smoke puffs on our joy ride at dyno day?



I clears up really quickly with boost.



You and I both need 'jectors!

 

[Piston Slapper]

That's what was making me think about it Wade. Yours smokes more than mine does. I think it is normal because I have an Auto and you manual. You can easier control RPMS to force smoke where as my Slushie makes the decisions for me. It's hard to lug an Auto... .



It's hard to sneak 100HP injectors $$$$ past "She Who Must Be Obeyed"!

 

[jerrethomas]

Originally posted by Piston Slapper

It's hard to sneak 100HP injectors $$$$ past "She Who Must Be Obeyed"!

The quote "well they might seem to cost a lot but i will get better fuel mileage with these injectors". LOL

 

[Piston Slapper]

She is impressed now by the comp. Little computer usually showed 18. 9 mpg average, which was correct. It now shows 20. 8-21. 0 now. She thinks it's working...



I guarantee it ain't getting that with me driving!



I bet some 100hp injectors would make it show 23mpg. She might bite?

 

[WadePatton]

100hp injectors

Ordered mine today!



Will be happy to report the HP/TQ AND mileage gains ASAP. And for the record I'm filling up tomorrow after running a tank on 4x5 and 5x5 exclusively. Should come in around 17. 5-18. 5.



Smoke should be UP too! :-laf

 

[WadePatton]

GOOD GAWD, I embarrass ME. I've got more smoke on 1x5 now than I had on 5x5 then.



Wussup Gap, didja get any smoke yet? Bring that thang over here, let me show you how to make clouds. Oo.



Oh, that mileage thing. I got 19. x, now to see what the 3's do to it. It's NOT GOOD right now. I'm still playing with it and had to re-seat the clutch. She's a holding now. Thanks Peter.