Edge Insight

[donnandon]

Anyone here using an Edge Insight with the 6. 7L? I was considering this since the truck is leased and I don't want to invest in the time and money for analog gauges. Would there be any warranty issues since it connects to the OBD port?

 

[Harlan]

You will not have any warranty problems (Dodge service Man) for all it is, is a reader and it will not inhance power. You may be amazed at what it will tell you ,information overload but it is what you need to know. I have one on 07. 1/2 and when I take it to the dealer all I do is unplug the wire to the port under the dash and let it hang and when done before I pull out of the shop I plug it back in. It has to be unpluged so they can run tests.

Harlan:-laf

 

[donnandon]

Thanks Harlan! Does it read any of the exhaust temps at all, pre or post turbo? and maybe transmission temps as well?

 

[jcarey]

From Edge's web site:



In addition to all of the parameters that can be displayed, diesel owners can purchase a thermocouple probe that connects to an additional sensor port on the OBDII connection and display EGT (Exhaust Gas Temperature). Or the same connection can be used to input a wideband 02 sensor. And for owners of new diesels with diesel particulate filter (DPF) traps, the Insight displays DPF regeneration status.



You will need the extra probe ($89. 99) for EGT and, it seems, DPF readings.

 

[Coalsmoke]

Hey guys, do you know how to do a master reset of the edge insight? I just got mine a few days ago and right in the middle of doing the fusion software update I lost computer power. After that the fuel economy and fuel flow wouldn't read right, some totally different parameter came up in its place and now the whole box doesn't work when I plug it into the truck. I've tried to just redo the software update but it is telling me that I have the most recent update.

 

[MHammond]

My findings are the same as Harlans

I have the optional probe aaaaand it seems to work good.



If I remember correct on the insight set up area there is a reset to defaults area

 

[Coalsmoke]

I think I may have been able to fool it into reloading the software,l I'm going to go out to see if it works. Do you have the most recent fusion software update for it? If so, do you still get your MPG and Fuel Flow read-outs? That was one of the reasons I got this thing and now I'm not entirely sure why they don't work, whether it was a goof up on my end or a software issue.

 

[Coalsmoke]

OK, spoke with Edge this morning and it seems that they were having problems with the accuracy of the fuel readings, so they removed them for the time being. Apparently they are going to fix them, but I thought I'd post this. So, if you have the older version of software and you like seeing your GPH and MPG #s, don't upload the new version yet until they get it fixed.

 

[Tillery]

Ok all of you Edge Insight Gurus. I just received one and am struggling a bit as to how to program it for my Dodge 07. 5-6. 71. I bought the egt probe and will install it soon. I want to be able to mointor Regens when they happen. When I say program it for my Dodge, what I mean is what parameters should I choose. Thanks much in advance

 

[Coalsmoke]

Tillery, this is indeed a confusing part, because many of the parameters listed are for different truck configurations and won't work. However, there are lots that do. If you send me an email, what I'll try to do is see if I can email you my Insight file that has my parameters all set up in it. At the very least it should give you a good plug and play starting point. I spent a lot of time figuring out what does and doesn't work so well on our trucks.

I'm still waiting on Edge to fix the turbo boost parameters and to return the instant fuel flow and fuel economy parameters.

 

[Cattletrkr]

I'm still waiting on Edge to fix the turbo boost parameters ...

What's wrong with the boost reading? Mine seems to be fine.

 

[Coalsmoke]

They are no where close to accurate on my insight module, I can be doing 65, up a 6% grade and the boost says 2psi

 

[donnandon]

Tillery, the Insight automatically displays a message when a regen occurs. I am still trying to figure out when it will happen before that though. I have been watching most of the Regen, DeSoot, etc. parameters and nothing seems consistent as to when a Regen should occur.









Coalsmoke, you ae right that there must be something wrong with the program in your Insight. Mine displays approx. 10-11 psi under the conditions you mention.

 

[Cattletrkr]

... I am still trying to figure out when it will happen

I have what I call a "regen screen" with Regen Desoot, Time sime last regen, # completed regens, and EGT displayed. The "time since last" counts in seconds and has been getting up to a little over 72,000 before it kicks in. I've had the Insight for 5 regens and it's been the same for all. Right about that 72-73,000 mark.

 

[MHammond]

the boost reading on mine seems to be accurate, I still have the factory program in.

the egt on the other hand don't seem all that accurate, the max I have seen is 900 even during regen and pulling.

 

[donnandon]

Cattletkr, you must be doing alot of highway driving to get that high a count. The only way I get higher numbers like that is when I am towing our trailer on the highway. Last weekend got up to 17000 yipee!! Normally I do alot of driving around town, 20 minutes at a time at 45mph or less and the number then only gets up to 2300 or so before another regen.



Does anyone know what the ReGen percent load value scale is. Mine has been as high as 11 and as low as 6, but not sure if those numbers are high or low?

 

[PaulCormier]

I would be thrilled to get a count of 17,000, never mind 70,000. I don't have an Insight, but I do have a dashhawk and I seldom see the count get any higher than 8,000. Around town, seems to do a regen in the 6,000 - 7,000 range. On the highway with the 5th wheel, it's in the 8,000 - 9,000 range (3 exhaust sensors running around 850 degrees).



Seems like the harder you work the truck, the less frequent the regens. Going through the hills in north western New Brunswick, I actually saw 12,000 (3 exhaust sensors running around 925).



The dashhawk has a regen filter, regen filter target, and soot load pressure. The regen filter target never changes and has been fixed at 4. 5. The regen filter varies between 2 and about 5 (except when the truck was new, it actually made its way to 12 before starting to fall). The soot load pressure appears to be the exhaust backpressure due to the DPF and varies with boost and time since last regen (usually 0. 1/0. 2 at idle and I've seen it as high as 6. 0 when climbing hills with the trailer in tow).



Paul

 

[Cattletrkr]

The load and the trigger and all that stuff DOES NOT work on mine. Probably another one of Edge's wonderful glitches. No matter, that's too much crap for me to watch anyway.

Yes, I do a lot of freeway driving and it's all pulling HEAVY loads. 580 miles yesterday with 1/2 that averaging 38,000lbs. Keeping it hot enough to stay clean is not much of a concern. Although I will say the EGT's don't get nearly as hot as one might think. I seldom see over 1200*F even pulling uphill with my foot on the floor. An Autometer EGT gauge proved my Attitude in my last truck to be easily 200* too cool so I wouldn't be surprised if the Insight was the same.