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As you may know, I have been out of work for over 4 months, after my position at Bombardier Aerospace was eliminated post 9-11. I got an email yesterday from Honeywell mentioning that they have openings in their avionics division. I know they are a great company to work for and take care of their employees.



Any thoughts on life in Phoenix, cost of living, camping opportunities, etc. I know it's hot there in the summer. Is the rest of the year pretty nice? I'm tired of snow. Wife doen't like the heat.
 
Ken, I grew up in western Kansas but have been in the Phoenix area for the last ten years. Yes it is blazing hot in the summer, but the rest of the year is beautiful. It is also only a 2-3 hour drive in the summer to be in the cool pines of northern AZ for some wonderful camping and fishing. This past week has been in the 75-80 degree range and has been great. As for cost of living, I think it is better than most metro areas. Housing is affordable and most jobs pay pretty well from what I can tell. As for camping opportunities, there are so many, sometimes it's hard to know where to go. :) . The big advantage is you can camp year round and never worry about weather. You can do anything from jet ski to snow ski all within a 2-3 hour drive. If you like the ocean you are only a few hours from Mexico or about 6 hours from the west coast. It would take a little adjustment coming from the Rockies, but northern AZ has around 7,000-11,000 foot (or so) elevations and beautiful mountains. Outdoor activities abound in AZ, year round. Good luck in the job search.
 
This is my first post so I hope it is correct. Phoenix is a pretty nice place to live given that it is a large city. You will find it "HOT" between May and October, 100+ degrees almost every day. The rest of the time it is very pleasant. Cost of living, approx 108 percent. Lots of outdoor life if you desire. Much of the state is public lands, 40-50 percent, BLM, National Forest and State Trust. Camping is open and free on most of it. If you get too hot in the summer you can always go North to the Rim County, 6500 ft + elevation to cool off. Trip is about two hours.
 
I went to school in Phoenix. IT was ok for about 3 months a year!!

IT isn't part of America anymore!!

They have allowed so much illegal immigration there, you will be in a minority!!!

Great opportunities in the electronics field!!

Bob
 
Ken, I moved from the midwest out to Phoenix for a year, that was in 97? I think. I grew up in SW CO so I know what the climate you are living in is like too. It is different, no doubt about it. I loved it, my wife hated it. It is HOT in the summer, and the heat is 3-4 months of HOT. It is however a more pleasant heat than the heat here in the midwest. A breeze will cool you in Phoenix, here a breeze is like a steam cooker. I drove a dark brown car in Phoenix with no AC and had no trouble with the heat. Basically drink enough water and the Phoenix heat is no problem. The lack of greenspace is different too, it is mostly all desert out there. The climate was great for me, I really enjoy outdoor activities, and basically every day of the year you have at least a portion of the day to do outstide activities. Cost of living was pretty high, probably a lot like Denver. My car insurance DOUBLED, groceries were quite a bit higher and so on. Houses and property were really cheap though, you could get 30-40% more house there for the same money as the midwest. If you play golf the prices for greens fees in and around Phoenix are insane in all but the hottest times of the summer, and are quite high even then. I would go back in a heartbeat, the wife never wants to go back. Give it a shot, if it does not work you can always move.
 
I worked for AlliedSignal, now Honeywell, in Torrance, CA - spent a bit of time day tripping to PHX. 117F during the summer and then you get the monsoons. I would have moved to ABQ, NM before going to PHX.



If the offer is from Honeywell I might be able to give you some insight or put you in contact with some locals that could give you the skinny.



Brian
 
Ken,I grew up in Southern AZ. Small town SE of PHX. I have two

brother -in-laws (who were born in WY) now living in PHX.

They love it. One is in finance and the other in real estate.

Gonna be hard to find a better climate than here,but you know that. I think it's a great state... Bet you would like it. Even with the heat.
 
Yeah it gets hot here. But, the air is so dry there's a huge difference between the sun and shade. Maybe 25 degrees. I grew up in the midwest where there was little difference because of the humidity. Here it's only humid in July and August when we get the annual rain threat. I've found the Phoenix area very affordable for everything. I love the outdoors and do things every day of the year. Don't worry about the climate. Just make sure your air conditioner works. :p
 
Originally posted by Todd G

Just make sure your air conditioner works. :p



and you have a light colored car.



I always thought it was amusing that AZ residents say it's a dry heat but in the same breath talk about monsoons.



Brian
 
PHX sounds pretty good this AM

Phx sounds good this morning. . Just plowed my lane. . 6 to 8 inches.

Got another inch now.

Ken,if you happen to work down toward PHX on your trip to Grand Canyon,we stayed for about a week at the Cave Creek Recreation Area N of PHX.

Not crowded when we were there in Sep. All paved,water and electric on site. Dump at entrance and they charged extra for it. ($3. I think). $15. 00 a nite to park with water and electric.



Exit 223 off of I-17 from FLG. Go east toward Carefree,and Cave Creek on State 74 about 8 miles.

Exit to the area is well marked. Couple, three fuel stations along 74.

This is a Maricopa County Rec area. . they have a web site but I have lost the URL.

Fuzz
 
I have never so intensely hated someplace I lived before Phoenix. Nor after, come to think of it.



I lived in the Sunnyslope area for a year, back in 1983-84, and went to DeVry.



At that time, there was only one way to go anywhere in town, and that was through town, stop and go all the way. I have been told it's improved since then.



Even in the winter, it's not winter. Although we had snow one morning when I got up, it was gone before 10 AM, and that was the limit of our winter.



About the "monsoon" season. The "monsoon" season is sort of a joke, since monsoons are really long-term events. During July and August, you will occaisionally have a rainstorm. It will cloud up any time of day or night and suddenly downpour. Sometimes it lasts only a few minutes, and all it does is turn to steam when it hits the 120 degree asphalt, and suddenly you have a steaming jungle generally for the rest of the day, and maybe the next day. During these, it is incredibly miserable. If you don't have air in your vehicle, it is STILL way too hot to be in it with the windows up, and then the sun comes back out and it's 100+ degrees with water evaporating everywhere. Reminds me of a steam bath.



If it's a longer rain, it soaks everything down totally and it does cool off a bit. Of course, by the next day, all that rain is in the air and it's your short term steam bath again.



Historically, Phoenix had very low humidity during the hot seasons, but that seems to have changed quite a bit. I lived in southern Utah before and after my year in Phx, and it made Phoenix feel positively muggy by comparison. Watered lawns, some attempts at agriculture, and other activities seem to have raised the humidity levels quite a bit.



Of course, it's nothing like the humidity in the swamps of Louisiana, but for us spoiled by temperate climates like Eastern Oregon, it seemed unbearable hot to me.



Albuquerque, on the other hand, is not too bad. It's still hot, but not AS hot, since it's just about a mile high in elevation. It's 95 to 105 or so in the summer, the humidity in the outlying areas is really low, and down by the river, in the bosques it's generally moderate. The smog is about the same for both, but I found Albuquerque a whole lot more liveable, for driving, for climate, and for people's temperament.



Albuquerque has Sandia Peak (12000+ feet at the peak) at it's edge, and mountain ranges to the east and north which are very pleasant in the summer for temperatures. All are within an hour's drive of the city's edge.



I would not trade you the whole of the state of New Mexico for a little corner of Oregon, Idaho, or western Montana. But, then that's just me.
 
What bothered me most about Phoenix wasn't the mobs of Hispanics or heat, it was the smog. I personally would rather be unemployed than live there.
 
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