Engine removal

[SAndreasen]

Do you pull the transmission out when removing the engine like the manual says or not

 

[BigPapa]

Some say yes, some say no. I think it’s much easier with the transmission off.

 

[Signal73]

I never have

 

[SAndreasen]

Thanks for the replies . Thought about raising the truck up so the front axle stopped a ways even I had to undo the shocks to give just a little more room between the axle and oil pan

 

[SAndreasen]

Some say yes, some say no. I think it’s much easier with the transmission off.

It is a pain to try and Line the transmission up that’s for I guess it’s really not that much more work to pull the transmission if makes it better . What seems to be the hardest part of lining up the engine

 

[Joe Mc]

Engine is heavy enough on its own. With trans attached it just (IMHO) allows another opportunity for hoisting device to fail and hurt something. Also, not disturbing the trans by leaving it in provides less chance of breaking something like line to trans fitting etc. Too much weight for me to consider yanking out all at once. Just saying...

 

[JMcCoy]

I haven't removed the motor, but I have pulled the transmission out the bottom. It wasn't that hard to do so I would think it would make your life easier.

 

[2Farr]

Your on the right track. Raise the truck , have the front wheels off the ground, uncouple trans (I was replacing trans) , remove exhaust manifold and all accessories. Remove hood, radiator, intercooler. Move trans and air coolers out of way. When removing engine rotate it to get it around frame. Or you can remove the oil pan. Lots of extra hands help a lot.

 

[moparguy]

I pulled the engine on a '98 12 valve. Left the automatic. Don't recall any particular issues with the reinstall. I do have a transmission jack which made it easy to handle the trans and a leveling spreader bar for the engine (highly recommend). Know too that the normal 3,000 lb or so DIY shop portacrane is on the light side. While the Cummins isn't That heavy, with the crane extended out as required it's at the very edge of its designed capacity. And even though my crane did the job, the pump seals started leaking shortly afterward. When I replaced the pump I upgraded to a 8 ton pump. Wish I'd had it on when doing the job.

Good Luck,

RonR

 

[SAndreasen]

Engine is heavy enough on its own. With trans attached it just (IMHO) allows another opportunity for hoisting device to fail and hurt something. Also, not disturbing the trans by leaving it in provides less chance of breaking something like line to trans fitting etc. Too much weight for me to consider yanking out all at once. Just saying...

You take them out separate

 

[JMcCoy]

Might help to take the wheels off the truck so you can work lower.

 

[Joe Mc]

You take them out separate

Glad you were able to answer your original thread question. Did you come to this conclusion based on replies to this (your) thread, or external information. Do tell, thanks.
Myself not knowing as much as others whom replied from their experiences, my reply was from my past experiences with gas engines and putting/imagining myself in your position with one of these trucks = deducting too much weight. Happy trails.

 

[SAndreasen]

Glad you were able to answer your original thread question. Did you come to this conclusion based on replies to this (your) thread, or external information. Do tell, thanks.
Myself not knowing as much as others whom replied from their experiences, my reply was from my past experiences with gas engines and putting/imagining myself in your position with one of these trucks = deducting too much weight. Happy trails.

I never had any intention of pulling the motor and transmission out as one where did that idea even come from? What I was asking is if anybody that has had the motor out before pull the transmission and then pull the motor like the book states . I think drop the front wheels and take the shocks loose and pull the front calipers and see if that will let the axle down to give a little more clearance between the oil pan and the front axle

 

[JMcCoy]

I think we all thought the same thing.

 

[BigPapa]

Well, I certainly assumed you were asking if you should pull them together or remove the transmission first.

 

[Joe Mc]

I never had any intention of pulling the motor and transmission out as one where did that idea even come from? What I was asking is if anybody that has had the motor out before pull the transmission and then pull the motor like the book states . I think drop the front wheels and take the shocks loose and pull the front calipers and see if that will let the axle down to give a little more clearance between the oil pan and the front axle

SAndreasen, Sorry my misunderstanding. At least I don't feel all alone in assuming (assume = makes an arsenal out of you and me. Most often in my case = just me) you were asking about if you should pull together as a unit. Guess I should have read multiple times the part in original post that said "like the manual says".

Sorry man.

 

[DavidC]

I assumed the pulling as a unit compared to separately also.

 

[SAndreasen]

Well, I certainly assumed you were asking if you should pull them together or remove the transmission first.

the manual says to remove transmission transfer case and then remove engine . If it makes life easier I’ll do it . Also thinking it may be easier to drop the front axle a few inches

 

[GAmes]

I know a guy who parts out Dodge/Cummins pickups. He pulls the engine & transmission out as a unit. He first unbolts and lifts the cab. Also, keep in mind he has no intention of ever putting an engine back into said truck, so wires, hoses and paint are collateral damage. I've had the pleasure of R&Ring the engine in mine three times, by myself. I disconnect and drop the transmission first. The engine is heavy and difficult enough to get past the inlet plenum as it is. I don't want or need the transmission behind it.

 

[SAndreasen]

Maybe that’s why the shop quoted me 2000.00$ to pull the engine and reinstall