Ever heard of Duetz Diesel engines

[SHobbs]

We have 4 new ultra low emission switch engines ( locomotives ) in the yard equipped with Duetz diesels, there are 3 of them in each loco and they are all V-8's. Interesting thing is that they have Amsoil oil by-pass filtration systems on them. I found an ID tag and it stated the engine produced 657 h. p, not sure about the torque it was not listed. There are huge generators where the transmission should be for electrical power generation. These things run off of batteries and the engine or engines are used to recharge the batteries.

 

[nickleinonen]

are these the ones NRE makes?? how do they load? i've never seen any of those hybrid loco's [green goat or nre gp switchers]
http://www.uprr.com/newsinfo/releases/environment/2006/0209_gensetbuy.shtml

 

[TFucili]

Deutz has been around for a long time and make a good diesel. As I recall they made a push into the heavy truck market with an air-cooled diesel. A local quarry back east had a fleet of them in Diamond-Reos(I think)that we all called ant eaters, because without the radiator they had a steeply slanted hood. Their downfall was quarry dust would clog 'em up, then burn 'em up.

Howzabout posting some gratuitous engine pictures?

 

[GIT-R-DONE]

Dont they make tractors? Ive seen them at local tractor pulls and do quite well.

 

[SHobbs]

Nick,



Those are the ones. Not sure how they load yet, we have to wait for techs. to come out and show us how to work them and how to hook them to a non hybrid loco. I was told that they do not transition like traditional loco's, they are made to run a max of 26 mph but, if you hook one to standard high h. p loco it will force them to transition and run a higher speed. They say that they pull as hard if not harder than a conventional loco. Funny thing about them is there is alot of windows with no tint and they utilize a Dometic 15,000 btu low profile rv a/c with a heat pump equipped with a thremostat on the back wall. If I understand these a/c units they are only designed to provide cooling down to 20* below outside ambient temp. Will be fun when the temps get to 104* and they only provide a 20* drop in temp in the cab if that. I don't think these hybrids can put out enuff power for the standard a/c which I think needs 480 volts.



Another thing about these is that they are not remote equipped. We have been using remote control technology for the past 5 years and none of these have been outfitted yet.



Next time I go to work I will get some pics.

 

[DieselMinded]

I Think Northwestern sells them

DM

 

[WDaniels]

They make very high quality diesels. What I like about them is that they make small single cylinder low RPM diesel engines that are perfect for power generation.

 

[GHarman]

Many years ago, while employed at a local gas utility company, I ran a Ditch Witch excavator with a Deutz diesel engine. It was a powerful unit for the size. GregH

 

[DogDiesel]

Duetz longevity

In Korea about 5 or so years ago, we had a fleet of V8 Duetz generators that each had @ 16,000 hours. Getting a little worried they would fail, and only other option to buy new Duetz engines, a military contract to rebuild them was struck. One by one they were took off-line and rebuilt to like new condition, but the amount of wear was not as much as anticipated. 16K hours is a lot.

Wayne

 

[Gonzo 1066]

I worked in a shop that sold Deutz AG tractors. The engines then were all air cooled and a very well engeneered units. However the air cooling system was very prone to clogging and the result was a melted head or piston. On thier 6 cylinder 500+ci engine One head cost about $400 and there were 6 of them. A very expensive engine to repair.

 

[steved]

Duetz makes a lot of industrial engines for smaller applications... usually generators, air compressors, etc. We had a small one mounted to a drill rig that ran the hydraulics.

Air cooling has it's advantages, but the one we had seemed to run hot... at least I felt it ran hot. We put a lot of hours on it at WOT without a single failure. IMO, they are probably as durable as a Cummins of the same size...

Just make sure the wire between the battery and alternator doesn't come loose because it will fry the alternator in short order... and they are not cheap to rebuild, let alone buy.

steved

 

[BILLVO]

As stated above deutz has been around for a real long time. They build from real small to real large engines. When I say large I mean comparable to the post of the worlds largest engine being built in Japan. They are for large power generators on Islands ect. They are among the most reliable engines in the deserts 0f the world.

 

[JDarr]

we have them in our san antonio service unit and they are junk they dont load up for **** and there is a delay in the 3 engines starting online you have to use the engine brakes to hold the engine back to let all 3 engines comeonline to kick a car . Its a rebuilt GE switch engine rebuild ,the cab has a good view but the seating sucks big time .

 

[nickleinonen]

they dont load up for ****

like a dash 9 eh?

 

[SHobbs]

Nick,



Lol. They do load and load hard. They put one side by side with a conventional switch engine and it held it's own. Maybe they can be compared to say a GP50, we have a few of those in yard service and they pull pretty hard. The GE locos stink in the yard we have a few B somethings and they load slow, once they get moving they do ok but, I prefer the EMD's for switching. Kinda weird how the hybrids work, one engine then when it needs more power the 2nd starts and if needed the 3rd kicks in. Also you can walk around inside the engine compartment and get to almost any side of the engine(s). I didn't get a chance today to get pics but, I will.

 

[Elite1]

I have an old Duetz air cooled 4 wheel drive Ditch Witch trencher. It still runs great after many years of abuse!

 

[Cattletrkr]

We had a Deutz 100 06 (100hp) tractor for a while. We sold it about 10 years ago because there was no place left to get parts, not that it ever really needed any. Only down side to the engine was the heater didn't work too good going down the road... the heat came off the exhaust which would cool before it could get to the cab.

The neighbor who bought it still uses it everyday as his TMR tractor I think.

Much more fuel efficient than the 110hp Ford 8700 we replaced it with.

 

[SNorman]

I own a 2001 Bobcat S250 with a 73 hp 4 cylinder Duetz engine. No problems what so ever. Me and the bobcat are usually covered in dust and I have had no issues with it clogging up. I worked it about as hard as one can ripping up hundreds of root balls after Hurricane Ivan.



Speaking as someone who has used one to make a living, I could not be happier with it's performance. Has not cost me one minute of lost work.

 

[EMD-Run8]

I believe Deutz made the engines in the GE CW60ACs. An old timer who trained me told said that Alco (I think) made a switch engine that worked really well. Loaded really quick for shootin' slack.

 

[JacobsD]

I believe Deutz made the engines in the GE CW60ACs. An old timer who trained me told said that Alco (I think) made a switch engine that worked really well. Loaded really quick for shootin' slack.

Yeah they did, and they ended up de-rated to 4400hp, but it seems CSX is re-rating them at 6000, not sure about UP.