Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) Everyone with a #12 or #11 TST!

[bayvalve]

Ok, all of you out there with a 5 speed 96'-98' running the TST plate, which plate do you recommend for me? I have a '96 5 speed with 4" exhaust, all the proper guages, and an AFE Mega-cannon intake. My clutch is stock, as are the injectors. I really don't have the funds for a new clutch, but I would like to get more power with a TST plate. I'm obviously choosing between the #12 and the #11, but I'm wondering which would be better.

Would the addition of the 3gsk be better with the #12 or #11? Is that even necessary with the TST plates? The difference in plates is 50 hp and 75 ft lbs, I'm no expert, but that has to be a noticeable difference. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

- Kevin.

 

[Deezul1]

I like my 11 real well and as you can see from my sig it does a good job. By moving it back and forth you can tailor the power level somewhat. If you go 12 you will change it later as almost every one does. The 10 might be a little much as its more of a bottom end power producer from what I have read and will be harder on the clutch. My clutch was marginal and when the boost hit 25lbs it would slip but that was with 370s also. By not going full throttle at full boost I made it last a while and it was ok towing the TT as I seldom went full throttle while towing.

 

[Bob V]

I had the same dilemma on my '97. I went with the 11. In the stock location I had to watch for clutch slippage but it was not a problem. I am glad that I went with the 11 over the 12, if you are like most people, after a while the 11 will seem small. I now have a 10 w/3000 GSK. I felt that the 3000 GSK slightly "detuned" the 11, a 10 is much better with the GSK if you have the clutch that will hold. The 12 is more of a no worry, while you will have to watch EGT with the 11.

Bob V

 

[BPonci]

On all my customers trucks with manuals i use #10 plates. I find the #10 plate to be very tuneable. You can set your gov arm to any torque curve you desire.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

On all my customers trucks with manuals i use #10 plates. I find the #10 plate to be very tune able. You can set your gov arm to any torque curve you desire.



I agree with Brad on this one too, you can put a #10 in it and slide it back to detune it, in my opinion the 10 is the best plate there is next to a custom one.



Jim

 

[WMonroe]

I also have a completely stock truck and am searching for a plate. If I put a #10 in and keep it in the stock position or even a little farther back would the clutch hold up. I drive the truck pretty hard, and cannot afford a new clutch now so whatever I put in the clutch will have to be able to handle it.

thanks

Will

 

[JJW_ND]

Two roads to follow

I had to chance to drive Johns truck (Deezul1). He has a #11 with 370s. I have a #10 stock injectors. We both have GSKs but he has a better turbo setup. His runs real good... . love that turbo!



Thanks for stopping in John... . You got out of here just in time. This Arctic wonderland gets old fast.



I ran a #11 for quite a while and it was OK. I had a centerforce clutch in prior to any plates.



Johns truck ran great for having a #11 with the GSK. Mine did not do very good after I added the GSK to the #11. The GSK kit does not seem to compliment this plate. His 370s and great turbo probably make the difference. The #10 made the difference in mine.



I also really like the #10 and if sliding it back keeps things OK with a stock turbo and stock clutch It would get my vote. I could never get plates to slide back. In some pumps they only slide forward. Also, I would skip the GSK's it you really want to do the #11 AND have a 215 (96 - 98 5sp) truck. This trucks shoud already pull well to upper 2K rpms. The extra power bigger plates add will reduce the need to rev high when pulling.



When pulling with a bigger plate and so so clutch, never do WOT under 2K rpms great saves the clutch. Even the stock clutch holds well above 2K rpms.



If it were me, I would order the #10 (no GSK) making sure the vendor you deal with (most will) will let you return the #10 if it is just to much (I doubt it will be).



You will have to keep it back from stock location. I would also not get to crazy with advancing the AFC spring to far rich. Everything you do to hold back the power (delay until the rpms build alittle) will save your clutch. A 16cm turbo housing is very reasonable if you need to cool things down in the upper rpms. It works well with our 5sp trucks.



jjw

ND

 

[Deezul1]

Thanks for stopping in John... . You got out of here just in time. This Arctic wonderland gets old fast.

I enjoyed the visit Jerry and driving your truck was fun. Jerry has one of the nicest looking stacks setup I have seen. Its getting cold here too (for Texas) I dont see how ya'all that live in cold country do it.

John



Oops, didnt mean to hijack the thread.

 

[rdrose]

i have an 11 and will be going to a 10 the gsk kit seem to make it not come on as hard. i just did a clutch so i'm ready for the 10. the 11 is a great plate i never have any temp problems just had to watch for the clutch,my truck had 150,000 mile when i put it in now it has 170,000. in my opinion the 11 is the way to go.

 

[SMorneau]

Neither is "better" than the other they are just different. I like the 11 over the 10 but only for smoke control. Both are tunable from a power standpoint although the 10 is very strong on the low end and hard on clutches.



I went to a 16cm housing and I wish I had just saved my money for a different turbo instead. You didn't elaborate on what you wanted to do with your truck. If you just want to outrun people at stop lights I would try the 11, shifted forward, and keep the turbo stock. EGTs should be monitored in the manifold not after the turbo.

 

[mesquite]

I just orderd a #11 plate but am having some second thoughts about self installing it. I am heading from Wyoming to Bakersfield in a few weeks and am looking for a shop, installer or perhaps some assistance along my route through Utah and Nevada. I have a 1998 12V with a fuel filter relocater kit installed.

 

[Kalaehina]

I have a #12 and my AFC housing slid forward, just right for me, a little more oomph, but easier on the clutch then the 11 was. I didn't want to have to worry about getting a new clutch soon so I went with the conservative power.