Competition Exotic Diesel Parts Page

[RacinDuallie]

How's this for an idea- thought of doing this for awhile now. It should have many benifits to all around. It should benifit The TDR members, supporters, advertisers, and all of the professional racing and pulling bodies. Have you ever been in your (pick one) garage,shop,office,bathroom,traffic-ect. ect. - and thought gee I wonder where I can get that-( fill in the blank with the part you choose).
How can this benifit me(you say)?
Wouldn't it be nice to click onto a page and actually FIND that high performance dream part? Find out WHO has it and take it from there? In the shop working away and discover that you need a special part- but don't know who to contact, click here and find it! If you know of a company that has developed a super gonzo exotic part Post it here so the rest of us can benifit from it.

So thats the plan if the membership knows info and its not out there for us to get resourced- what good will it do to sit back and keep it to yourself? Who's got the Billet Heads ? Who's got the sickest,wildest pumps, who's got the trickest turbos, Who's got the liteweight superstrong rods, Who's got billet crankshafts-Billet camshafts,ect.
Exotic- parts only! No street stuff! All out hardcore HORSEPOWER Parts only!!

Feel free to Post your findings so the rest of us can find them too-
and for new members looking to get involved in professional racing pulling can click here to find the exotic parts too.

 

[RacinDuallie]

Not one brave soul huh?

I see people complaining about not enough trucks showing up to some events, this would be 1 small way to help along our motorsports programs by helping out the curious build to be competitive in ALL our programs and hopeully boost attendence at our events with more people willing to run.
For the newbies to learn the info must be out there... ... ... .

 

[Turbo Thom]

You don't understand. What I know is a secret. I can't have you out runnin me with the very part I told you about. Now that just ain't American.



Get it? That sounds like motocross when I started back in the 70'S. :{ THAT AIN"T MOTOCROSS TODAY.



Now you got it?



. . Preston. .

 

[HEMI®Dart]

Exotic sounds like you'll need deep pockets.

 

[bluthndr]

... about the response I expected... Weak - I know where to buy better stuff so that make me better? That's just stupid. Props to those guys that develop their own tune-up and set themselves apart (some call them dyno queens - I call them smart), but if you just want o keep your vendor secret, that's just lame. As far as I'm concerned those people (the buyers not sellers) bring nothing to the table except ego...



Other than that - I know Scheid can get some wicked pumps - and they may make some - I saw what looked (sort of) like a 12 cylinder p7100 that was for use on a 6 cyl engine at their event. Columbus diesel and Hypermax (not just for fords ya know)make/have some pretty outrageous stuff too, but none of the stuff (in my opinion) is mass produced. You're talking about major $$$, low volume/one off, specific application pieces, so it's not like you can browse a catalog or something.



I'm sure if anyone really wanted the stuff, a call to one of those three places could either get you WHATEVER you may need, or can tell you where to get it. Those guys were making sick power with diesels way before this organization (TDR) even existed. Not to diminish any of the "new" diesel vendors, but I think the above (and probably more than a few back woods quiet types doing stuff only for themselves) are on the cutting edge of all out diesel performance.



Guy who have seen Crowder's truck or any pro "smoker" pulling tractors in person know what I'm tallking about...

 

[TxDieselKid]

You're talking about major $$$, low volume/one off, specific application pieces, so it's not like you can browse a catalog or something.

And that's why not many know about those type of parts. I was browsing Scheids site the other night and saw a conversion kit for a p-7100 for a 24v. I knew that they sold them, just not on the site. 3 years ago you would NEVER have seen that on a site and be able to "add to cart".



The closeest thing I have seen to a website with truly hi-po parts is Haisley's site, and Scheid's "Truck Pulling" link on their site.



As for people who are doing stuff and not telling, that is the world of racing and pulling. I'm not saying I agree with it, but I understand it. That's the difference between that extra foot, or 0. 05 of a second that will get him the check for $1,000. I not saying I would do it, but I understand it.

 

[RacinDuallie]

You don't understand. What I know is a secret. I can't have you out runnin me with the very part I told you about. Now that just ain't American.

Get it? That sounds like motocross when I started back in the 70'S. :{ THAT AIN"T MOTOCROSS TODAY.

Now you got it?

. . Preston. .

TurboThom- Well I understand that some people would rather not reveal their sources, I can understand that, it must stem from some other feelings- maybe your not confident with your racing/ driving experience? I didnt ask you for you race tune up- I didnt ask what you set your vehicle up to race? To go and say that's un-American- is just plain wrong! I guess that you don't want to see our motorsports events grow. Instead of keeping secrets you could selectively say like TxDieselKid and like bluthndr did and that's it ! No harm in saying what they said is there? JEEZ! Liten up!!

HemiDart- If you need deep pockets- then you'll need deep pockets. If you want to buy the top of the line that's what you get!!

I expected that kind of responce- some people are too scared of being shown up at the track! Heck go to a NHRA National Event!! You can stand there and watch the pit crews tear down their engines right in front of you!! Some of the crew will even come and answer your questions!! Just don't ask em what their gonna tune it for cause the answers will be hilarious!! But if you was to ask em what clutch they use or what pistons they'll tell you but they don't get into specifics but they'll tell you what manafacturer they use- heck look at all the sponsor decals on their racers!!

 

[Turbo Thom]

I didn't mean to hurt your feelings, but if you think I need to lighten up, you just don't know me. Lo siento, amigo.



. . Preston. .

 

[RacinDuallie]

Explain to me then T-bo Thom- why is it that anyone can pick up a magazine- for instance the May 2005 Drag Racer Magazine- and get just about ALL the basic specs on 13 time- World Champion- John Forces' Castrol GTX Funny Car? This happens to be the Worlds Qwickest and Fastest Funny Car ever! Do you think Mr. Force is secretive ! You could go down the list of specs and see the manafacturers products that are used what specs they are and everything!!It's attitudes like this that makes the motorsports growth rate a long slow process. So YES I do think you need to liten up!! And I don't know you- your right on that.

 

[ob1kobi]

Explain to me then T-bo Thom- why is it that anyone can pick up a magazine- for instance the May 2005 Drag Racer Magazine- and get just about ALL the basic specs on 13 time- World Champion- John Forces' Castrol GTX Funny Car? This happens to be the Worlds Qwickest and Fastest Funny Car ever! Do you think Mr. Force is secretive ! You could go down the list of specs and see the manafacturers products that are used what specs they are and everything!!It's attitudes like this that makes the motorsports growth rate a long slow process. So YES I do think you need to liten up!! And I don't know you- your right on that.

You can get just about all the specs from anybody on here also, but John Force didn't get to be the 13 time world champion by giving up all his secrets If its a secret that keeps me slightly ahead of guy #2, then its going to stay a secret, there is absolutely nothing at all wrong with that, its common sense.

 

[RacinDuallie]

You can get just about all the specs from anybody on here also, but John Force didn't get to be the 13 time world champion by giving up all his secrets If its a secret that keeps me slightly ahead of guy #2, then its going to stay a secret, there is absolutely nothing at all wrong with that, its common sense.

Ted-
True! I can understand your position, But to say : 'so and so' makes a killer billet cam and 'so and so' just marketed a tricked out injection pump, or 'so and so' has a billet cyl head- that's wrong?? That would be
1) helping fellow TDR members
2) helping TDR sponsors
3) increasing participants at our events
4) help speed up development of our motorsports
5)make our racing/pulling events more competitive
6)increasing the knowledge out there

Could go on and on but to take that stance is just plain selfish!!

Not asking if YOU run the exotic stuff- just who has it?

 

[DavidTD]

I think Turbo Thom is having some fun.



What most racers do is not really a secret from what I see. Everyone has their favorite turbo set-up, injectors, pump work, pistons, cams etc. Some use N20, or water/meth and some use #2 only. Again preference.



I think the difference is how they tune and set-up the drivetrain and chassis.



Personally, I have seen first hand information shared, assistance provided, tips, etc. provided between race teams and I like to see that happen.



I'll add my secret to success. If you want to go fast, it's not the parts by itself that make it happen. It is making those parts develop the power you are looking for, in a range best suited for what you are trying to achieve. This is done two ways. Either countless trips to the track or dyno time. I find it amazing that people will spend thousands of dollars on parts but resist spending a few hundred having the truck tuned by someone who knows how on a dyno. This is especially true on a 12v.

 

[COMP461]

true you can see the different parts used in Forces FC , but the real secret is little things , like paying attension to detail, in the top fuel ranks they are required to all run the same general parts , NHRA has done this to curb cost. The cost to field a Fuel car now is around 5 to 10 million . I have been around Fuel racing far more then diesels , and the winning combination is usual the part between the Crew chiefs ears . Example. every body run simular pistons , but some times you put a . 010, . 020 . 030 shorter rod in different holes to reduce compression. I was involved with a project on a fuel car where we measured crank shaft flex, from front to rear , we then ground a cam to reflect those specs. this was a big secret , until Ed Hills team split up and the info was disimanated. this was something Randy McMahon from RPM performance dataloggers , and Al Weiss Ed's crew Chief , and speical projects guy worked on . I was down right threaten , with a banana insertion if I talked . its common knolage now .



the same is in diesels , what most people don't understand is its not always the parts, but the tuner , look at Jim Fullmer. he is a sailor , no big bucks there , I was in the Marines , and know abut military pay . but he with his limited budget has acomplished a great deal.



so here is a list of my parts



pistons Cummins

cam Bullet / buddha power

pump Dr. Perfonmance

torque convertor , Coan

nitrous NX Nitrous Express

turbos Turbo Auto Diesel phoenix

data logger, RPM performance

 

[TxDieselKid]

so here is a list of my parts...

pump Dr. Perfonmance

I thought I read a post from you once that said John did your pump also?

 

[RacinDuallie]

I think Turbo Thom is having some fun.

What most racers do is not really a secret from what I see. Everyone has their favorite turbo set-up, injectors, pump work, pistons, cams etc. Some use N20, or water/meth and some use #2 only. Again preference.

I think the difference is how they tune and set-up the drivetrain and chassis.

Personally, I have seen first hand information shared, assistance provided, tips, etc. provided between race teams and I like to see that happen.

I'll add my secret to success. If you want to go fast, it's not the parts by itself that make it happen. It is making those parts develop the power you are looking for, in a range best suited for what you are trying to achieve. This is done two ways. Either countless trips to the track or dyno time. I find it amazing that people will spend thousands of dollars on parts but resist spending a few hundred having the truck tuned by someone who knows how on a dyno. This is especially true on a 12v.

Dave-
I have to say that your reply has to be right on target! I agree with everything that you said there- I believe you gave a totally honest answer.
But the purpose here is to LOCATE these Shops that make these special one off parts- I'm not looking for someones race tuneup program.

Exotic parts= custom made- one off- big money whatever you want to call it... ...

 

[RacinDuallie]

Justin-

I can relate to how you feel about not knowing what your paying for. I can understand WHY Ken does what he does..... Do I agree- well yes and no.

But that really is not the purpose of this thread... ... .

I would just like to know on various companies that do make special parts- exotic parts if you will... ...

Not everyone buys billet cams- liteweight rods- litened crankshafts- custom pistons- super pumps and one off things like billet heads, I just thought that if someone knew of companies that deal with making these exotic parts to post what they're making and who they are... .....

But it seems that some people who THINK that they're out in front -(they're not):-{} that to reveal a company that made 1 killer part for them that it'll remain a secret- truth is that 1 super gonzo part didnt make them- the WHOLE package is what makes them? And I say again I didnt ask for their race program-! Just if someone wanted to purchase liteweight super strength rods- who do you contact? If someone knows who to contact then what's the harm in telling others?


Oh I forgot that 1 super part makes up everyones program... ... . please... .
Its the whole package and what you do with that package that makes em- then there's the driver issue... . all the power in the world doesnt make you king of the land- its the whole package and the driver is part of that package!

 

[DavidTD]

Dave-

I have to say that your reply has to be right on target! I agree with everything that you said there- I believe you gave a totally honest answer.

But the purpose here is to LOCATE these Shops that make these special one off parts- I'm not looking for someones race tuneup program.



Exotic parts= custom made- one off- big money whatever you want to call it... ...

Sorry, I did stray a bit off topic didn't I. I think it's a great idea. I would like to be able to look at parts to see what is available or where to find it. You going to tackle it? If so, I'm waiting. Ready yet? :-laf



I would think though it would be a great way to get parts out there from smaller companies that don't sell a ton or advertise etc. Keep us posted on what you come up with.

 

[RacinDuallie]

Sorry, I did stray a bit off topic didn't I. I think it's a great idea. I would like to be able to look at parts to see what is available or where to find it. You going to tackle it? If so, I'm waiting. Ready yet? :-laf

I would think though it would be a great way to get parts out there from smaller companies that don't sell a ton or advertise etc. Keep us posted on what you come up with.

Relying on the membership here leads to :{ members crying about giving up their programs

And that's not the intentions here!

Just custom -one off- not for everyone- EXOTIC -parts!! Doesnt seem to be so hard does it?:-laf

 

[justinp20012500]

Ok,



I will be testing a trans brake for the 47RE.



When you pull the shifter down in manual low, and energize a solenoid you will be able to make boost and not have to use the service brakes to do it.



After you build as much boost as you need, you release the solenoid and shock the trans with fluid.



Sounds like a shaft breaking good time huh??



Do you think there will be a market for something like this??

 

[DavidTD]

Justin, you talking about a trans brake aren't you?