EZ & VA - What's the Difference?

[Bent6]

What is the difference in the Poweredge and the EZ. What's the difference in these and the VA. What all does the EZ come with. Does it come with a different elbow or what? New guy trying to get educated on all this before BOMBING.

Thanks!

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Will
'98 3500 24v, auto, 4. 10s, stock - for now!
38' United Expressline
X-treme Gooseneck race car hauler.

Other Bad Habit:
'87 Buick Regal
Turbo V-6 1400hp, 1200ft/lbs
4. 99 @ 142MPH 1/8 mile
7. 70 @ 179MPH 1/4 mile
And lookin' for more!

SO I'M A TURBO MAN!

 

[Guest00]

Originally posted by Alan Reagan:
I looked at one, just looked. Didn't even touch it.

AAWWW c'm on and try one, it's ok, you won't get hooked, there safe, no ones gonna tell, what are ya chicken ... ... ... ... ... ... .....

Naw HE did not touch it but someone else did.



[This message has been edited by JNutter (edited 03-19-2001). ]

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Hey Will,

In a nutshell

The VA is timing and fueling starting right off idle, and does not have a boost module. It is a snap to install. It adds around 60hp I believe.

The EZ is timing, mild fueling and has a boost module & elbow. It has 3 settings to change the aggressiveness of the fueling, which kicks in around 1700rpm. It is also very easy to install. Someone else can fill you in on the fine details that knows more about the PE products. I tried both the EZ and VA recently and was more impressed with the VA. It gave smoother power and more responsive off-line. Not much smoke with RV injectors and EGTs maxed under 1100 (used in conjunction with my Practical Solutions boost module). The EZ worked great too but made my engine sound like it was cold even though it was good and warmed up. . . too much combustion clatter. I don't think others experience this often but a few have commmented on increased noise with the EZ.

Vaughn

BTW I'm interested to know what you've done to BOMB that Buick V6. . . I think the 3. 8 is an awesome gasser #ad


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'01 2500 QC Shortbed 2wd, 6-speed, 3. 54LSD, Cab & Fog lamps, Camper & Tow Pkg.
BOMBed: RV injectors, PS Boost module, Amsoil air filter, straightpiped exh. , Aeroquip 3/8" fuel line w/tank mounted lift pump, AutoMeter Sport Comp gauges, Line-X'd, Amber turn signal conversion.
Mildly BOMBed Performance: 0-60 @ 10. 0 sec. ,
40-60 @ 5. 5 sec. ,
0-100 @ 24 sec.

 

[Alan Reagan]

I've been pretty impressed with the VA's I've seen #ad
. The VA CPC requires a boost module but sure provides some hoss power across the RPM range. I've just seen them mind you, that's all. I looked at one, just looked. Didn't even touch it.

 

[Challenger-II]

I asked this very question last week but didnt get much response. It seems the VA has some history and a track record. It was the hottest mod last year. I too would like to hear from others about the pros / cons of the new or old VA's. Any injection pump problems associated with it??

 

[Ray Torresdal]

Just installed VA a few weeks ago. Power comes on much earlier in the RPM range, dynoed 240 with winter blend fuel. That is the only mod I've done to date. Works very well, EGT's never top 1050.

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01 QC LWB 5 spd, trailer tow pkg, camper pkg

 

[Deezal Man]

DD offers a "box" as well, True Torque I think that is what they call it. How does this compare with an EZ box? I'm looking to install DDII injectors and would like the best box to work with them.

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98. 5' 24v 2500 Auto/3. 54 4x4 SB QC 285-75-16's on Alcoa's. Everything but leather. PIAA 1200's, AMSOIL dual filter relocation system, Smittybuilt Stainless Steel Nerfs, Rhino Liner(Junk), K&N air filter(For Sale)15 year AMSOIL dealer. Time permitting, Soon to include Ultra-lite Pyro,0-50lbs boost, Trans temp in the pillar. Rancho 9000's with in cab adjustment.

 

[Alan Reagan]

Yeah, I've heard that VA CPC (the older box) is really a good choice. There was a used one for sale in the classifieds. You know I just hear so much about these things..... sometimes I hear voices saying... . "Get a box. Get a box. " I don't even know what a box is, man. But I hear the VA box is a good one. And if you get power across the band (and you will) with a whole lot of low end power you probably want to consider doing that.

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

I understand the newer van Aakens are milder than the older ones. The one I tried was the original version, which made about the same power as the EZ did set on the hottest setting. The vA shaved a full second off my 0-60 time, from 10 sec. to 9 seconds. It may seem as powerful as the EZ since go-power is there the instant you touch the Go Pedal.

Vaughn

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'01 2500 QC Shortbed 2wd, 6-speed, 3. 54LSD, Cab & Fog lamps, Camper & Tow Pkg.
BOMBed: RV injectors, PS Boost module, Amsoil air filter, straightpiped exh. , Aeroquip 3/8" fuel line w/tank mounted lift pump, AutoMeter Sport Comp gauges, Line-X'd, Amber turn signal conversion.
Mildly BOMBed Performance: 0-60 @ 10. 0 sec. ,
40-60 @ 5. 5 sec. ,
0-100 @ 24 sec.

[This message has been edited by Vaughn MacKenzie (edited 03-20-2001). ]

 

[DavidTD]

Since the EZ comes with a boost module, I think if you are going to compare performance of the box, the VA needs to have a PS boost installed. Understand it will add to the cost of the VA setup, but I bet power is about the same. Dunno - could be wrong.

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David
1998 3500 QC 4x4 5 speed 4:10, 235-85-16, VA CPC via JRE, PS Boost Module, K&N air filter. Emerald Green w/tan leather. B&W turnover ball.
1/4 mile 18. 2 @ 74. 75mph
1999 Exiss 3 horse slant, 4ft midtack, 6ft shortwall dressing.
70k miles as of 6/21/00

 

[LSMITH]

DavidTD, I will second that. I think that the VA when used with a boost module will be as strong as an EZ is, and probably stronger in the low end. Also with the flavor-of-the-month club there are some VA's out there for reasonable prices cancelling the added cost of a boost module.

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99 2500 QC 4X4 AUTO SB 24V LARAMIE SLT 3. 5 LSD 285-75-16'S SPA Boost/EGT Everything but leather NRA Member Great Lakes TDR Member

 

[Bart Timothy]

Most people who've compared the EZ and VA side by side at the same time usually end up picking the EZ because it produces more power. The VA is more conservative in it's settings than the EZ, which gives 3 different settings to choose from. The DD box is in fact an EZ with different settings optimized for DD's injectors.

I asked Brett, from Edge Products, how conservative the EZ settings actually are. His answer was that the EZ is getting the maximum amount of power that any of that type of box can achieve. I believe him.

 

[Runaway]

If you have the original VA (BD Plug N Power), and want to run it on an ETH/DEE -- keep it! When I made the move to the ETH/DEE club, I e-mailed BD to see if I could run my original VA on the ETH. I was emailed back that I would need the new HO BD Plug n Power. So I sold my original (enjoy JNutter) and anxiously awaited the new truck. As time progress, BD changed its standing and the original can be used on the ETH. I've been in contact with BD, about the mis-information. BD said they would take care of me, well I'm still waiting. Supposedly the Plug N Play is being redesigned with a boost module built in??? That was the last correspondence I received from them 3 weeks ago... had to vent alittle!

The BD Plug N Play 60 hp gain is measured at the flywheel, NOT rear wheels.

I think they are all excellent products, just who you are comfortable dealing with...



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"01" Forest Green QC/LB ETH/DEE,4x4, 3. 54LSD, VDO (boost, pyro) Westin SS Nerf Bars and Grill Gaurd, Delta tool box, K&N.
00 28' Jayco 5th Wheel, 86 "Classic 16" Alumacraft, 00 Honda Rancher

 

[Biker53]

Sorry can't help with the comparison. All I can tell you is that after having the VA on for 25,000 plus miles I am very happy. With the auto at 75 down the highway you can pass with ease and still have a lot of power left. Have done very light pulling and can tell a difference. For me when I lock up in fourth I ease off the fuel just a bit otherwise if pushing too hard it feels like it tries to slip the transmission. No regrets.

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Y2k 2500 4x4 auto
Harley Wide Glide & Yamaha Royal Star

 

[JR2]

There is enought above about the EZ and VA so I thought I would add a little about the Power Edge. It is a fueling box with a boost module built in. It has three levels of fueling that are adjusted on the box by holding the button on it down. It is also programable (By Edge only) and can be set for some insane fueling. If you see people refering to a HOT edge it is reprogramed. Just to make things more confusing Edge is soon releasing the Power Edge Pro (I think that is what it is called) and it will be an EZ and PE combined in one box.

As for the flavor of the month, I bought my PE first because it contained a boost module and the rest did not. I have an EZ too and bought it because the PE performed great and Edge customer service was fantastic.



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John D. Rathert Jr.
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01 2500 Forrest Green Sport SLT+ QC LWB 4x4 Auto 3. 54 rear end with all options avail. DC Nerf Bars, DC Grill Guard, DC mud flaps, Line-X bed liner, Leer 160XL Topper, Power Edge, EZ Edge, SPA Boost/EGT Gauge on pillar mount, DTT's tc/vb combo, 275 RV injectors, DD 4" Exhaust and a KN RE0880 where the air box use to be. New turbo (HX40), SS fuel lines and bigger injectors in planning stages... . See My Truck, Dads truck: 98. 5 3500 SLT QC LWB 4x4, Brother Truck: 92 W250 SLT CC LWB 4x4 (Dads old truck) Winter fun - 2000 Skidoo Summit 700
I am my own warranty station. ZOOM ZOOM
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[Cliffman]

ditto that JR2 #ad
. I Love my PE/EZ combo + DD3's #ad
#ad
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2001 Driftwood 3500 Quad Cab 4x4, Long Bed, 5. 9L HO Cummins Diesel (ETH), 6-Speed HD Manual (DEE) Loven the shift thing (Arrrrrh), 3:54, SLT+, 3. 54 Anti-Spin Axle, Camper Special Group, Trailer Tow Group, 18,000 LB 5th Wheel Hitch, Leather, Sliding Rear Window, BDs E-Brake, Rhino Liner (gray), Velvet ride shackles, cup smoothy, Power Edge box / EZ Box w/elbo, DD Stage III injectors, McLeod Dual Disk Clutch, K&N, SPA Gauges, Jardine Exhaust, 16cm turbo housing. Love the smell of diesel in the morning. Hope your watchen DC cuz every thing you see here is a big lie, Hehe.

 

[dieseltech]

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[JR2]

Bent6 (Will) - Along with what I said in my e-mail, let me add that one of the first things you should do is get the VB/TC replaced. When I did this it felt like I gained a bunch of HP. Dyno results have shown up to 25 RWHP increase with just that. Then you can add boxes and injectors.

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John D. Rathert Jr.
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01 2500 Forrest Green Sport SLT+ QC LWB 4x4 Auto 3. 54 rear end with all options avail. DC Nerf Bars, DC Grill Guard, DC mud flaps, Line-X bed liner, Leer 160XL Topper, Power Edge, EZ Edge, SPA Boost/EGT Gauge on pillar mount, DTT's tc/vb combo, 275 RV injectors, DD 4" Exhaust and a KN RE0880 where the air box use to be. New turbo (HX40), SS fuel lines and bigger injectors in planning stages... . See My Truck, Dads truck: 98. 5 3500 SLT QC LWB 4x4, Brother Truck: 92 W250 SLT CC LWB 4x4 (Dads old truck) Winter fun - 2000 Skidoo Summit 700
I am my own warranty station. ZOOM ZOOM
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[Bart Timothy]

The new Edge box is supposed to have a RS232 port which will allow it to be programed by a computer. All the Edge boxes will have this feature eventually.

 

[drawson]

THe edge is MADE IN AMERICA and the VA is made where?