F.A.S.S. Price

[F-15I Ra'am]

Think the F. A. S. S. is going to be my next upgrade. 95gph pump only, not the whole set up with filters. Anyone know who has the best price? Shoot me a pm if you want!

 

[jwilliams3]

I would go with the filtered unit!!

I thought about the pump only, but now I am glad I bought the whole package.

Easy to install too!

Ebay has'em.

 

[F-15I Ra'am]

I'd prefer the filtered unit but out here on the ranch I'd tear it up eventually.

 

[jwilliams3]

Mine doesnt stick out below the body at all.

 

[Buffalo]

I believe the FASS System has two filteration options. 10 Microns & 3 microns. Personally, I would go for the 3 microns.

A number of the diesel engine manufacturers are entertaining the ideas of finer filteration for the fuel systems. The HPCR systems seem to be more susceptable to damage from dirty fuel and fuel with low lubricity. Caterpillar, for instance, is now filtering down to 1 micron. Chevy/Duramax has just come out with a dual-element filter, made by Racor, that filters down to 7 microns in the outer filter media and 3 microns in the inner filter media.

There are a number of people on the Dieselplace.com (Duramax) website building aftermarket fuel filter systems using the 1 micron Caterpillar filter. Fleetguard has been filtering to the 10 micron level but, now has some filters filtering to the, I believe, 5 micron level. They seem to be showing some interest in finer filteration. Cummins is aparently "looking into the issue", also, I've heard.

I don't know if these large company's are just taking "a shot in the dark" at fixing the fuel delivery issues or, their research has shown this "is" the fix.



On the other side of the coin, there has been some suggestion that finer filteration presents it's own set of problems. #1, The pump having to work too hard to suck the fuel through such a dense filter. #2, The filters "loading-up" very quickly because they are filtering so much "crap" out of the fuel. I think I'd rather have to change the filter prematurely than the fuel system. I've, also, never heard of a pump failure because of too dense of a filtering media. However, I could see how that could happen.



I installed one of the 1 micron Caterpillar filters on the 115 gal. aux. fuel tank on my truck and towed my trailer, for the first time, going to May Madness. I was, especially, concerned about how it was going to work pulling a load and working the engine hard. So far as I could tell, it worked just fine. The Cat filter is huge! Probably, 12"-14" long. Looks like it could hold a shovel-full of dirt.



I noticed that you live or work on a ranch. If you are using a bulk fuel system and only get fuel from that system, you could put a 1 micron filteration system on the bulk storage tanks and filter the fuel for all your diesel equipment. Just a thought. I ran across a guy, George Morrison, back east that does that and has never had a problem with his Duramax while many other Duramax owners have been having problems.



While I'm no expert in these matters, I have been having some injector issues with my '03 and have been doing some reading about ways to possibly minimize these problems. Just thought I'd pass-on a little of what I have heard. Hope it helps.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[Texasrattler]

He asked for price!

 

[Buffalo]

Texasrattler,



You are absolutely right. F-151Ra'am did ask for "pump only" pricing. My apologies.



Apparently, none of us seems to know the pump only price.



However, some of us do see that there may be added value by having extra filteration, for a bit more money. The pump, alone, should be great but, why not have the "whole enchilada" for a bit more and probably do your fuel delivery system a lot more good.



I believe that's what we were trying to say to F-151Ra'am.



Sorry for the long posts.



Joe F. (Buffalo)

 

[Matt400]

In issue 48 on page 106 they listed it as 409. 00

I went to their web site to get a look and couldn't down load the install PDF

I am curious how it mounts and if it is a direct replacment for the filter mounted pump.



I have been looking at a Scotty Smart Fuel Kit with Holley Blue.

 

[Diesel Nut]

I just installed one on a 2000 and it was a very simple install, and it came with all the parts to go from the tank to the filter pot. Bypassed the stock lift pump all together. His application was $369, pump only.

 

[roverhybrids]

I would not reccomend the holley pumps. I've had very bad luck with them... ..... albeit I'm not exactly using them for their intended purpose

 

[Matt400]

roverhybrids- was that with an older pump? Those pumps have gone through a recent major redesign So far from what I have read they are holding up good. Mounting below the drivers foot well with the Scotty Kit also provides a more quiet operation than back by the tank.



Diesel Nut- can you recall the noise level compared to stock?

 

[roverhybrids]

I'm not positive on this last one being the new design or not(I think it was, looks just like the pictures in your link); but i can tell you it was less than one year old. This makes about 5 out of 7 or 8 that I've had fail. Again I'm not using them for their intended purpose(gasoline) but for warm vegetable oil and diesel.



I would consider the holley pumps to be loud... ... . most electric pumps are.

I have mounted a FASS (pump only) in the engine compartment(on frame rail) on a 93 dodge and it was hard to hear at all. I would consider the FASS to be louder than a holley, so my point is that I would say the engine compartment, on the frame is a good place to mount an electric pump for noise concerns... ... ..... heat on the other hand may be more of a concern.