Fact or fiction??????????

[RCone]

Have you seen this?? From what I have read Europe is really picking up on this. Anybody have real world information?

http://emissionstech.com/



Roger

 

[lmills]

Propane will do the same thing with a lot more

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

NAHHHhhh - the magnets I have attached to my fuel line, sold by JC Whitney will run CIRCLES around that setup... :-laf :-laf

 

[RCone]

Actually I read that a school district in AZ (and thats where this outfit is located) is going to equip some 134 diesel school buses with this contraption and that they been testing for the last 4 months.

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

This looks similar to the "platinum" vapor unit I put on my 1980 Skylark back in the late '80s. It was hooked to a vacuum line to draw vapor into the carburetor. The vacuum drew air in to the bottom of the chamber where it bubbled through a pink-colored solution then was drawn through the line to the carburetor. Every 10,000 miles you added more ingredients to the chamber (I don't know what exactly).



Whatever it was actually worked quite well. I always kept track of my mileage and it improved by at least 1. 5mpg. SOP meter could detect considerable power improvement.



My '80 Skylark was my "first car" with the 2. 8 V6, actually was a very good car with decent power. I did some tweaks to the motor and carb and made it reasonably fast. When I had the platinum burner on there I could easily outrun my buddy's early '80s Supra and another friend's RX-7 up to about 75mph (something they were NOT proud of ).



Vaughn

 

[RCone]

Maybe Marco could provide some input on this. He is what I consider to be "cutting edge" and doesn't appear to be afraid to experiment and very knowledgable on what Europe is doing. And they are way ahead of us on diesel useage. Also, don't forget that if we think diesel is expensive here, over there it's about $4 to $5 per gallon.



Roger

 

[Marco]

Never seen that thing here.

Sorry dunno what thatthing is.



IF I understand it correctly, the vaccum of the engine makes the liquid evaporate and the aerosol is then sucked into the engine??



Well, a diesel engine has no vaccum... ... .



'Nough said???

:-{}



Marco

 

[illflem]

They have test data from diesels so I guess it must work on them.

I've found when a manufacturer doesn't list prices that their product is usually very expensive. My bet is it would take a half million miles to pay for the fuel savings from this device.

 

[Gary - K7GLD]

WELL, like the fella above said - propane injection does the same as they claim for their system, is currently available at reasonable cost, proven, and gives both reduced emissions AND a power boost...

 

[fortunate1]

A turbo-diesel has no vacuum. A normally-aspirated diesel does.

 

[dpuckett]

I dont care for the idea of salts in the intake. isnt that just ASKING for corossion and a host of other stuff? I didnt read beyond "How it Works" It does sound like snake oil to me. I could be wrong, though... ...

 

[RCone]

I didn't realize that normally aspirated diesels verses turbocharged create a vacuum. Thank you Fortunate One and Marco. Oh well, this then, is a mute point for us CTD owners. For those of you who did want to know the cost I am under the impresssion that the initial setup is/was $699 and the refills every 400 hours is/was $199. Pretty expensive.



I was NOT looking to it for a power increase or even a mileage increase necessarily. I was looking at it as a way to perhaps reduce emissions as I like and have almost enough power (as can be witnessed by my signature) but I also have very strong feelings about protecting our environment.



Roger

 

[illflem]

Roger, I appreciate your concern for the environment but this device might just substitute one chemical for another. Sort of like the high levels of platinum from catalytic converters they've found depositing globally since the introduction of cats.

 

[KWIKKURT]

Didn't you guys look at the link???? It has its own vacuum pump... . Geez!

 

[RGT]

It say's it has it's own pump that is assisted by engine vacuum, is the pump strong enough to overcome boost? or does it have to be injected pre-turbo?

 

[Marco]

I understand it this way.

The vacum pump helps to create the aerosol which is then sucked into the intake by the vacuum from the engine.



Will not work with the Cummins other than building in a venturi before the turbo.



I don't know you, I would not like my turbo suck that stuff. Most of all I don't like the idea of an air restriction-venturi.

 

[illflem]

Unless their advertising is extremely deceptive it must work with our engines as most all of the rigs in their pictures are turbo charged. It must have a venturi as Marco said because if the injected chemicals were pumped to overcome boost pressure it would undo the atomization that the included vacuum pump produced.

 

[KWIKKURT]

I Know!!!!! Can we just hook a boost hose up to the Bottom???? I would think it would make a Aerosol like whoosh!...





Seriously I agree with Marco... IT's best to keep it out of the turbo. .