Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) FASS fuel install

[MDowns]

i recently installed the FASS 150 pump on my 01 dodge. ran the blue hose provided in the box from the tank, through the FASS pump, and into the stock fuel filter housing. i was wanting to know if i should also run this blue hose from the housing to the injection pump or leave the stock line in place. any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

 

[Crash&Burn]

On my Fass95, I left the stock steel line in place

 

[PRout]

Its not an absolute necessity, but those stock banjo fittings are known to be restrictive. Vulcan made a nice replacement kit for that line that had provisions for adding a fuel pressure gauge also.

Hopefully, this will take you there: 1) Fuel System:Big Line Kits

 

[JDiehl]

With my Fass I replaced all the line from tank to the vp 44. The kit from the FF to the IP is a great way to tap the system for a fuel pressure gauge also. I also have in the works a draw straw and new fuel level sending unit while the tank is down. I want the security of adequate volume of fuel to the pump.

 

[MDowns]

thanks for the help. Guess its all up to my budget as to whether i replace the line then...

 

[LowFly]

Im guessing you have a HPFP instead of a FASS due to your question.



AND we do have a kit to do what you are asking. Its number is: BBRK-1001



Stands for Banjo Bolt Replacement Kit

 

[MDowns]

im not sure what your referring to... its possible but i dont think so. . it ws a fass pump that mounts to the frame and came with a banjo bolt replacement that was used on the fuel filter line and the blue hose.

 

[LowFly]

im not sure what your referring to... its possible but i dont think so. . it ws a fass pump that mounts to the frame and came with a banjo bolt replacement that was used on the fuel filter line and the blue hose.

OK... SO it is a FASS that you are running into the stock filter head. Correct? Because usually one would run the FASS directly to the CP3/VP44.



SO if you wanted to remove the lines from the filter head and injection pump, you can use the BBRK-1001 to convert to the blue hose and fittings we use.

 

[MDowns]

so what i shouldve done is run the hose directly to the pump and bypass the stock filter housing? damn people who tell me stuff when im hooking it up and end up doing it wrong... thanks for the input. . is the blue hose a 3/8" or am i thinking of something different. . dont really wanna crawl under there and look. . its a little soggy out there today. .

 

[LowFly]

so what i shouldve done is run the hose directly to the pump and bypass the stock filter housing? damn people who tell me stuff when im hooking it up and end up doing it wrong... thanks for the input. . is the blue hose a 3/8" or am i thinking of something different. . dont really wanna crawl under there and look. . its a little soggy out there today. .

I would suggest reviewing this if you have not done so already:



98. 5-04. 5



05-08



The hose is 3/8's if its a Dodge.....

 

[PRout]

so what i shouldve done is run the hose directly to the pump and bypass the stock filter housing? damn people who tell me stuff when im hooking it up and end up doing it wrong... thanks for the input. . is the blue hose a 3/8" or am i thinking of something different. . dont really wanna crawl under there and look. . its a little soggy out there today. .

To some people it is more wrong to lose their last line of defense from contaminants getting into their VP44. Without that filter housing there, you lose your... Filter, water separator, fuel heater, and extra reservoir of fuel that is right next to the VP44 (which arguably "helps" keep air bubbles/pressure bursts from shock loading the internals of the VP when you start it after the truck sits for a bit). What happens when particles of your hose start breaking down and there is nothing to stop them from entering the VP44? Every time the system is maintained, or that truck is driven down a dirt road and that hose and the rest of the system is vibrating around, there is going to be some kind of contaminants released and coming up that line. How much, that is debatable and depends on "your luck".

I merely suggested keeping the filter/water separator/fuel heater as it came from the factory for a reason, it is a last line of defense, and suggest opening the lines up from there to the VP.

Call it wrong, "damn the people" that tried to help, whatever, but mine and many others, have been there for years without causing a problem, just keeping 10 micron+ particles, plus any water that has been condensed in the system out of their precious VP44. It is more "personal preference" whether you choose to keep it or lose it. It probably also depends on your climate in the winter and whether you want to have a fuel heater or not. I have run over 400 HP in the past with the filter in line, and did not lose more than 1 psi of pressure under full throttle (thats 12 psi minimum at the VP from the original 13. 5 idle pressure). Lose the filter if you choose. Now you have an 8 ft piece of hose that will end up starting to break down someday and those particles will go through your VP44. If that's acceptable, then lose it. If not, get a big line kit "in addition" to the FASS and keep it. Your choice.

It causes no harm keeping it assuming you have the fuel fittings to support the flow that is needed. I used 1/2" lines throughout and have been told it is "overkill". But losing the filter, is acceptable. . Its all "personal" preference. Not necessarily right or wrong.

I'm not trying to be derogatory or argue with anyone, especially Diesel-Dan as he has seen a lot and helped a lot of people get back on the road (including me). I just think its worth keeping the oem fuel filter if you're not building a 500HP+ machine. JMO all 1/2 cents worth.

 

[LowFly]

To some people it is more wrong to lose their last line of defense from contaminants getting into their VP44. Without that filter housing there, you lose your... Filter, water separator, fuel heater, and extra reservoir of fuel that is right next to the VP44 (which arguably "helps" keep air bubbles/pressure bursts from shock loading the internals of the VP when you start it after the truck sits for a bit). What happens when particles of your hose start breaking down and there is nothing to stop them from entering the VP44? Every time the system is maintained, or that truck is driven down a dirt road and that hose and the rest of the system is vibrating around, there is going to be some kind of contaminants released and coming up that line. How much, that is debatable and depends on "your luck".



I merely suggested keeping the filter/water separator/fuel heater as it came from the factory for a reason, it is a last line of defense, and suggest opening the lines up from there to the VP.



Call it wrong, "damn the people" that tried to help, whatever, but mine and many others, have been there for years without causing a problem, just keeping 10 micron+ particles, plus any water that has been condensed in the system out of their precious VP44. It is more "personal preference" whether you choose to keep it or lose it. It probably also depends on your climate in the winter and whether you want to have a fuel heater or not. I have run over 400 HP in the past with the filter in line, and did not lose more than 1 psi of pressure under full throttle (thats 12 psi minimum at the VP from the original 13. 5 idle pressure). Lose the filter if you choose. Now you have an 8 ft piece of hose that will end up starting to break down someday and those particles will go through your VP44. If that's acceptable, then lose it. If not, get a big line kit "in addition" to the FASS and keep it. Your choice.



It causes no harm keeping it assuming you have the fuel fittings to support the flow that is needed. I used 1/2" lines throughout and have been told it is "overkill". But losing the filter, is acceptable. . Its all "personal" preference. Not necessarily right or wrong.



I'm not trying to be derogatory or argue with anyone, especially Diesel-Dan as he has seen a lot and helped a lot of people get back on the road (including me). I just think its worth keeping the oem fuel filter if you're not building a 500HP+ machine. JMO all 1/2 cents worth.

You're right... . it can be done both ways with good success..... but we like to run directly to the injection pump... . Tomato, To-mah-to... ...

 

[PRout]

There ya go, straight from Dan - The Man! At least we're not saying ketchup, ('cept to the ferd boys. . )