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Fifth Wheel misshap (pix added)

I hit some ice and rolled my Wildcat. Having read some discussions on here about people riding in the trailer while towing, I will ask people not to do it. The 5er came apart like a house of cards. Please use your heads. No one rides in the trailer. I will post pictures when I can get them down loaded.
 
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Jeez Dave! :eek: I hope you and the family are all right!

I've heard about riding in the trailer, and it never seemed like a good idea to me. Now I know it isn't!
 
Look forward to seeing the pics. I am glad i have never let my family ride in the back of my fifthe wheel. Thanks for the info.
 
Fellas, he was alone, and is ok. The '93 got banged up, but he's still driving it. Trailer did not survive at all. :eek:

I'm sure he'll post more when he gets a chance, he's working nites.
 
Thanks guys. The truck box is messed up, but it runs. Had some guys follow me today and its tracking ok. I will have it checked out when things slow down for me in July. Yeah, the family was at home, as I was heading to a job by myself. It just blew my mind how things came apart. It is easy to forget how much weight and inertia is following behind the tow vehicle.

Ram4Sam, do tell. I presume you hit ice as well? I got complacent as road conditions were good... . except for about 300 feet of I-25. Oh well, Wyoming has thrown a few curve balls at me over the years... . this was another one.
 
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Sure glad you're okay and the family was at home safe.



Excellent advice Dave, no one rides in any Trailer or Truck Camper for that matter.
 
I hit some ice and rolled my Wildcat. Having read some discussions on here about people riding in the trailer while towing, I will ask people not to do it. The 5er came apart like a house of cards. Please use your heads. No one rides in the trailer. I will post pictures when I can get them down loaded.

Should have had some dual wheels on that 5'vr and maybe it would not have rolled!!:-laf
 
DValentineI have a couple of curious questions if you would answer them.



Was the ice you hit on a bridge or overpass?



Where at were you on I-25?



How fast were you cruising?



What time of the day did this happen?
 
Thanks guys. The truck box is messed up, but it runs. Had some guys follow me today and its tracking ok. I will have it checked out when things slow down for me in July. Yeah, the family was at home, as I was heading to a job by myself. It just blew my mind how things came apart. It is easy to forget how much weight and inertia is following behind the tow vehicle.



Ram4Sam, do tell. I presume you hit ice as well? I got complacent as road conditions were good... . except for about 300 feet of I-25. Oh well, Wyoming has thrown a few curve balls at me over the years... . this was another one.



It's not the ice out here, it is the the wind that will bite you. One second, no wind, five seconds later, a whole lot of it. On it's side for a hundred feet or so, then head first into the k-rail.



The bed took a beating. New bed and hitch, all is well. I got better insurance this time.



Sam
 
I almost lost my dually and Everest 364q heading east over Elk Mountain in Wyoming. I wasn't expecting ice and wind on the east side immediately after the peak. Thank the powers that be that it was a small patch of ice. The front end went first, I regained control, then the backend went, I regained it and then the trailer went. By the time I regained it I had gone from the right white line to the left of the left white line. I was pulling seat out for awhile.
 
I was South of Kaycee... mile 237. There was blowing snow the day before, that melted on the roadway and froze. The officer that came to help me, said that he has seen a few wrecks right at the same spot, for the same reason. The time of day was a little before 7 am in the morning. It was just getting light, visibility was marginal... . in that "middle light" between light and dark. I was doing 65, not on cruse control. It was not "black ice" but at the top of a rise in the road. I felt the back end of the truck dive toward the passing lane and the dance started. We went back and forth a few times. The passing lane was clear of ice, so I tried to ease over to it. The truck headed for the ditch so I drove into it. The trailer came around on the passenger side as the truck hit the snow in the ditch and jackknifed, so hard that the hitch broke and the trailer rolled behind me. The pickup box is smashed in the front passenger side and ripped out much like Sam's picture.

In hind sight... . maybe I could have caught up with the trailer... . but it felt like the whipping acton was not getting smalller. When I tried to get over to the passing lane to make the dry pavement, the trailer pulled the truck around, so we were heading for the ditch, as both trailer and truck drive tires were still on the ice. I just couldn't get it under control.

Brake controllers on big trucks are on the steering column. On light trucks the are usually on the kick panel of the lower dash..... not an easy place to reach in a time of "action". If I had been able to apply just the trailer brakes things might have been different. But I had my hand full and didn't think to do so until hours after the wreck. So this has led me to rethink where the brake controller is mounted.

One can practice whipping a truck or a car around in a snowy parking lot... but how does one practice with a trailer in tow?

Wind... . Later that day as we were near Wyo/Co border, the wind was very strong. My welding partner was very nervous as he was also towing a trailer. We pulled over and hunkered down for a bit. Sam, I think I remember your post on the trailer. Thanks for posting again.

WyoJim... . nothing truly against Wyoming..... my wife is from Cody. We just have a little inside joke about Wyo, as I have had a few trying times in the state.

Sam I think that the wood frame trailers do better that the welded aluminum in a crash. Aluminum welds are hard to keep from cracking where the weld puddle ends. ( Take a look at a welded aluminum flat deck semi trailer) My trailer rolled 3/4 of a revolution, landing on its side... but the walls cracked, and split open on the corners where the panels meet. The nose cap popped off.

Dave
 
Quote from Jumbo Jet " Should have had some dual wheels on that 5'vr and maybe it would not have rolled!!""



Are you a jerk or just trying to be funny? If you are trying to be funny, you're not.
 
Respect !

The photos you have posted have educated me to respect what I am towing!!!

Glad you and everyone in your families are ok!!!!



Thanks for sharing !!!
 
1-25 through the Wheatland-Chugwater area is terrible W. R. T. the winds. It'll blow around a little car. Have not had to pull a trailer that way yet, but every car/suv/truck I've driven that way can get thrown around by the wind on that stretch. Add ice and its a fun ride (not)
 
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