Ford/International 6L Legal Issues

[rscurtis]

Just curious. . how soon after the 6. 0 came out did they start noticing problems? Was it right away??

I think Harvey's being a little optimistic. According to some of the Ford forums, some never made it out of the dealership, or off the transporter for that matter.

 

[jgillott]

I think Harvey's being a little optimistic. According to some of the Ford forums, some never made it out of the dealership, or off the transporter for that matter.

We live just a few miles from our local Ford dealer. Their salesman often bring customers out to the parking lot of the Country Club next to our house to switch drivers or go over features of the vehicle. One of the first 6. 0L's that came out of that dealer on a test drive made it to that parking lot and promptly tossed a rod through the pan. The water/oil spot was on the pavement for months. I can't imagine the look on the customers face when the salesman dropped the old "What would it take for you to drive this thing home today" line. :-laf

 

[MLee]

brods and vaughn thanks for the info I'll pass it along to him. I don't think he'll heed the warnings but at least he'll have them.

You know aswell as I-- that BLUE OVAL runs in there blood!!! His and his Dad.

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

Yeah the 6. 0s were dropping right off the bat. And it amazed me how so many guys who had major failures would turn right around and go back for another one

 

[RHestand]

Yeah the 6. 0s were dropping right off the bat. And it amazed me how so many guys who had major failures would turn right around and go back for another one

Absolutely!

During the time I had my 6. 0 (2003-06) and was at Furd dealers (Either dropping mine off for repair or picking it up. ) I met 2-3 guys that had Lemon Lawed their 6. 0s back to Furd and turned right around and bought another one.

They sang the same song "I've always been a Furd guy and it only stands to reason that you might get a bad one once in a while. "

I finally gave up on mine and bought a new 06 Laramie 5. 9, CC.

The Dodge dealer didn't want my 6. 0 so I thought I'd sell it myself. Big mistake! It took me almost 2 years to sell it, I finally sold it to a diesel mechanic that specialized in 6. 0 repair. He said he fixed them, then resold them. ???

I lost more money on this truck than any vehicle deal I've made in my entire life! What a POS.

 

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

We live just a few miles from our local Ford dealer. Their salesman often bring customers out to the parking lot of the Country Club next to our house to switch drivers or go over features of the vehicle. One of the first 6. 0L's that came out of that dealer on a test drive made it to that parking lot and promptly tossed a rod through the pan. The water/oil spot was on the pavement for months. I can't imagine the look on the customers face when the salesman dropped the old "What would it take for you to drive this thing home today" line. :-laf

I remember a guy who bought the first 6. 0 to hit the lot in late 02 and lost the EGR cooler within the first 300 miles and ended up buying another first year model 6. 4 and had the whole instrument cluster replaced after the dealer fried it and tried to point a finger at him

You know aswell as I-- that BLUE OVAL runs in there blood!!! His and his Dad.

There is also the "blue oval syndrome" that most owners are not aware of... It is the disease that all Fords get soon after the warranty expires :-laf

 

[HBarlow]

Wow. Sick. Ohhs are even worse than I knew and I think they are useless as a pile of scrap metal. I've probably been too kind to Furds.

 

[Mikey-KE7LBB]

I forgot to mention the loyal "Ford man" mechanic friend of mine that recently learned what the term "hydrolock" means after his EGR cooler failed catastrophically on I-80 at close to 3k RPM :-laf



He was blaming the battery, ECM, and even the starter when it died It wouldn't even try to crank over... Even after bouncing his weight on the end of a 3' cheater pipe with a breaker bar would make it budge in either direction!!



He later called Ford and they said that the "extreme compression these 6. 0 engines have would make impossible for him to turn it over by hand"... I called BS and told him EXACTLY what I thought about the situation



Result= 4 of 8 bent connecting rods and a BIG mess of coolant and nasty lookin' oil trail leading right up to the location the POS 6. 0h no! truck was winched onto the F-750 Ford tow truck (equipped with a 5. 9 Cummins ) and was shamefully dumped off to the very shop that he worked at :-laf



He ended up borrowing a Chebby to make it home from work to wash away his shame and embarrassment before listening to the voice of reason (and knowledge via TDR) and eventually buying a Dodge!!!

 

[HBarlow]

That must have been a rather dramatic stop if the engine hydrolocked at highway speed. Probably flat spotted both rear tires.

 

[04blackcherry]

Between my wife and I, we have been very happy with our 3 Ford Rangers. I've put motors in all of them after 250,000 to 300,000 miles and we keep driving them. I love the damn things and I'm pretty good at keeping them maintained. But, there was no blanking way I was buying a Ford diesel. Two of my buddies have Fords and one of them is a 6. 0L. He laughed at me when my Ram needed a $180 lift pump. I think I'll be feeling very sorry for him in the future.

I bought my '04 Ram based on another friend of mine who has had an '89 3500, '92 2500, '96 2500, and '01 2500 with no engine failures and close to 300,000 on all but the '01. The '96 is still his work truck. All of his vehicles were/are driven off road to the logging site everyday. I could not ignore that kind of endorsement.