FPPF Total Power....NFG for 2008???

[continentaldrifter]

Hello, i just picked up a 2008 5500C/C and dealer and i were discuss anti-gel products. He stated that Dodge recommends using Howes fuel treatment . I've been using FPPF Total Power in my 99 5. 9 since new and have three gallons left in storage. He told me to look into the description and check if it is a "solvent". Anybody using this additive or was i mis-informed??

 

[CurtLee]

I've been using howes for a couple years now. I dont think i've heard of the other one. I like using the howes mostly because it feels like the truck just runs better.



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[HBarlow]

Look in your owner's manual. I don't remember reading a word about Howe's in the owner's manual of any of the three Dodge-Cummins trucks I've owned and I'll bet you a $1. 00 you won't find it in yours either.

Generally speaking, Dodge and Cummins do not recommend using any additive whatsoever but use of winter fuel anti-gel seems to be okay.

Make sure whatever you use is considered acceptable for a ULSD fuel/Low Ash oil 6. 7 engine.

I have used Power Service anti-gel in both of my previous Rams. I think I have read or heard that Power Service makes two different formulations now. One for pre-2007 emissions trucks(5. 9 engines) and a new formula for ULSD/Low Ash 6. 7 engines. It would not be wise to use the same additive you used in a truck prior to ULSD fuel in your new 5500.

 

[Moose Truck]

How old is your stuff? According to FPPF it's compatable with ULSD. I'd worry about the stuff you have if it's more than 2 years old, before ULSD came out.

 

[jelag]

We have several trucks and use the same chemical in all of them... From our CAT to Cummins engines...

I've learned that in Canada the government sets standards for all fuel and its blended down in late Sept and stays that way until spring...

In the US there is no standard or government suggestion but its left to the local bulk plant and most guys in the station have no clue... and usually whats in the ground in the station is short of where it needs to be if there is a cold snap that's just moved into the area. . or you've bought fuel in a warm area and driven to a cold spot...

We use fleet cards and after one gelled up 15 years ago I learned a lot about this whole process... . I learned that 95% of whats in the bottle to prevent gelling will also add to the cetane rating and most all brands are the same...

Usually the more you pay represents a higher concentration so fewer oz's treat more fuel...

So we purchase a chemical, and 8 oz. treats 125 gallons... about what we put on with each tank full as most of our trucks have extra tanks... we have decided to treat the year around... . the chemical is a cetane improver as well as an anti-gel additive... and as I remember a case (2 - 2. 5 gal) is around $175. 00 but treads something like 8,000 or 10,000 gal. .

Your using such a small amount I'm sure that even if its on the shelf for 2 or 3 years it won't hurt the new systems in the 6. 7L engines... . at least we didn't have a problem...

I've learned so much about this I could write another couple of pages but I'm going to step off the soap box... .

 

[steved]

Look up "Diesel fuel Additive Lubricity Study"... I believe they compared FPPF to the others as far as lubrication qualities.

http://www.johnfjensen.com/Diesel_fuel_additive_test.pdf