Yeah the 870's what i've got now and i've worn the poor thing down to a nub. Best all around pump gun hands down. The only reason for wanting to switch to auto is just to get on that second shot quicker and smoother, that and shoot twice as many shells:-laf The issue of 3 1/2's i think are more a matter of preference than functionality. I think a well placed 3 or even 2 3/4 gets the job done. Unless you shoot with lots of optimism(sky bustin). Not saying i'm a great shot, i just don't shoot em anymore. The benelli SBE 2 is an amazing gun but it also is a bit more coin. I just don't think @ 25yo i wanna spend that much on somethin that's gonna get abused all winter.