Front Brakes and Rotors

[Boaring1961]

I'm about to replace the front brakes and rotors on my 2005 quad cab 4wd and had a question.



I plan on going with the stock OEM brake pads, not the value line pads. Does someone have the Mopar part number for the high quality OEM pads.



Also, would you guys use the stock rotors or find another high quality aftermarket replacement? I was thinking of using the premium NAPA rotors.



Thanks

 

[seafish]

These are the original part#'s on my 2005 QC 4WD


05093267AA full set--FRONT Disc Brake Pads


05093257AA full set--REAR Disc Brake Pads

 

[AH64ID]

Do the rotors actually need replacement?

I have heard the OEM's aren't the exact same as the OE pads, and there is no way to buy them. Is there any truth to that?

 

[BIGNASTY]

You need rotors or do you just want to upgrade?

 

[Boaring1961]

I just bought another 2005 Ram 2500 and it shakes pretty good going from 75 mph to a stop.

I assumed it was the rotors, but welcome any information that says it could be something else.

 

[AH64ID]

Take a look at them thru the wheels.

 

[BIGNASTY]

Could be pads that have a HARD SPOT on them that make it shhhhhhhhimy

 

[BIGNASTY]

Dont want to try and change your mind about parts but these are the BEST I have seen. A little dusty but THEY STOP YA with a LOAD I wont put anything else on mine again







http://www.raybestos.com/wps/portal...rake+Pads/Advanced+Technology+Disc+Brake+Pads

 

[BDaugherty]

my rotors have 250k on them and i would have turned them last brake job if I hadnt been in a time crunch i did go from unknown pads that were on the truck when i bought it to oem pads and man what a difference. It's oem pads all the way for me from now on.

 

[jelag]

All rotors have a discard dimension stamped into the surface of the rotor... this is a minimal dimension (thickness) required for heat dissipation during hard breaking... In almost all cases a rotor can be machined (turned) with the correct equipment to return it to specification for another life cycle. All it takes is micrometer to measure the deepest grove...

Some or all of the heat marks can be removed with the lath, and in severe cases the surface can be ground if the cutter bit chatters as it cuts the surface...

A good shop will take a rough cut on the rotor to get it within . 005" of the final dimension and than take a slow cut to finish the process... When we turned them for customers we'd wash them with denatured alcohol to remove all the grinding dust to extend the life of the friction that's later installed on the vehicle...

We'd check the dimension when the customer brought us the rotor and we'd access how bad it was... . I'd guess that in 85% of the cases unless there was excessive metal to metal wear we'd salvage the rotor and return it to service. .

If the manufacturer of the vehicle didn't think the vehicle could function with a turned rotor, they'd set the discard dimension at a level that would demand replacement at the first break job...

BTW, all the Dodges I owned would go 140 to 150K miles before the first break job with an exhaust brake on the truck... my current drive, an 05 now has 140K miles and will need front pads at the next safety check...

Hope this has helped answer some of the questions you might have. .

 

[crispyboy]

I just put front brakes on my father's Grand Cherokee so this information may be relevant to other Chrysler vehicles. From the research that I did there is a company by the name of Akebono who is an OEM manufacturer for many of the foreign and domestic car companies. The ProAct Premium pads I purchased were made in the USA - Elizabethtown, KY according to the side of the box and warranty paperwork ~ $63 for the front. Akebono was also the original manufacturer of the calipers for the Jeep. This may be another option for you.
I have ran them on my wifes Grand Cherokee for three years - they create minimal dust.

http://www.akebonobrakes.com/aftermarket/index.html

 

[Prairie Dog]

Dont want to try and change your mind about parts but these are the BEST I have seen. A little dusty but THEY STOP YA with a LOAD I wont put anything else on mine again



http://www.raybestos.com/wps/portal...rake+Pads/Advanced+Technology+Disc+Brake+Pads

I used those on my 93. Huge increase in stopping power!

 

[DNDracing]

I got about 80K out of the OE pads on my truck, and replaced them with the Mopar pads (not sure the part number, but not the value line) and had the rotors turned. That was about 70K miles ago, and I've been happy. I did notice an increase in brake dust after I had the rotors turned, but really with the amount of miles I'm getting on the OE stuff, I'm pretty happy.

Because of the brake dust issue, when I did the rear brakes, I went with the slotted rotors from EBC and Hawk pads on the rear. I'm about 20K miles in, and so far have been happy. I can't say I notice a huge difference in stopping or anything, but no brake dust. I think the OE stuff is good, either way you can't loose.

 

[BIGNASTY]

I used those on my 93. Huge increase in stopping power!

PD I think HUGE increase would be an UNDER STATEMENT in my opinion . I pull WAY more weight in my stock trailer than what I should, and I like to know when I need to step on the binders that they will STOP YA these DO IT AND MORE stock trailer has disc brakes and I put these pads on those axles also.

 

[DNDracing]

Just a quick update, I was doing some other maintenance on my truck (Axle joints started the process this time) and notice my front brakes were close to needing replaced again. Since I had to remove the calipers to get at the axle joints, I decided to replace them. I was able to turn the rotors again, but they are at the minimum now on both sides. I put the Hawk pads from Geno's Garage in this time (same as I have in the rear). Checking my maintenance logs, I was actually at 83,000 miles on the pads, and they still had a little more life at them (both inboard ones were at about 30% left would be a guess).

Just an FYI for everyone. I'm pretty happy with the life I'm betting out my brakes (I don't pull much with the truck). Curious to see how the stopping is with the Hawk pads at all four corners now?

 

[jmtandem]

I am getting ready to install the Hawk Super Duty pads on the rear of my '05 dually. Just a question, do the pads with the little clip go inside, that would be the piston side of the rotor? And what does the clip do? It is not a squeel indicator of low pad remaining life. Thanks.

 

[Bob4x4]

Take a look at them thru the wheels.

That won't tell much about thickness variation or runout

 

[AH64ID]

But wouldn't shaking from the rotors be visible in warpage?

 

[Bob4x4]

The variation in thickness to create a shimmy is much smaller than can be detected by eye
My calipers get a good work out daily

 

[JBallou]

I went to Genos for front and rear sets of the Hawk super duty pads. Best price that I could find with both pair in stock. They stop very nice, leave very little brake dust. Once they get a stop or two in a row. Warm not hot they stop even better. I haven't had any fade issues. But I haven't pushed it like I did like when we drove from Salt lake across Utah to Reno. I had multiple very hot, long and slow hills. That was on the OEM pads.

Hawk is better that OEM to me. Dust, fade resistance.

Btw I went to Hawk pads on our Q7 Audi front and rear. No visible dust and stops like you have dropped the anchor. Plus a lot cheaper that Audi OEM.