2nd Gen Non-Engine/Transmission Fuel Additives for the Northeast winter

[JERRYKAM]

I will be transferring from Colorado to New England next month (Oct). Having spent several previous winters in NE I can attest that they tend to be a bit more severe than the Colo front range (Denver - Colo Springs areas). But this will be my first trip with my 06 CTD.



I'm curious as to whether or not a case can be made for the use of fuel additives during the NE winter. Cummins says not required. TDR and Geno's garage carry fuel additives (Cummins and Mopar as I recall). Aside from the fact that they certainly can't hurt anything they each add to the cost of fuel. From a $5c up to a $25c per gal. Not much, but what does it buy us?



Perhaps a controversial subject, but with winter knocking on the door should be a timely topic for discussion.



Jerry K

 

[Moose Truck]

I used RBP Diesel Power last winter. Had some Issues with Gelling before And this is the Stuff that the Shop guy recomended.



http://www.rollingbigpower.com/products/?&productID=180

The Internet ad is guady



A lot the Coffee Night crowd uses Power Service in the White bottle, too.



Moose00

 

[Diesel Nut]

Amsoil Cold Flow Improver



Amsoil Diesel Concentrate



This is what I would be using. I already use the Diesel Concentrate every tanks. Extra fuel lubricity can't be bad . . . .

 

[Whiskey]

What Diesel Nut saidOo.

whiskey

 

[EKlem]

I would check with the station that you are filling up at as to how much kero they run in their fuel. One of the stations near me runs 40% kero and 60% #2 diesel which will gell once it gets colder than about -20. Most stations run 50/50 and I have never had that gell up. The powerservice in the white bottle seems to work well for antigel stuff and if you do gell up and really need to get it running again, diesel 911(red bottle) works. Make sure that you have filled up with winter blend before going anywhere cold. If I am heading north, I try to time it such that I am down to about a quarter of a tank when I am getting close, then I fill up with the local fuel which will be appropriately mixed.



I think that one of the best things to do to combat a new england winter is to switch to synthetic oil. I notice that my engine spins over a lot faster and fires sooner with it. A winter front will also help your engine get up to temp.



There are a lot of trucks running around here with no additives and they have no problems.

 

[DieselDoghouse]

Not to worry! We in NE recently passed a referendum outlawing severe wintahs! I would however, be very careful with the outside of the truck rather than under the hood. Up here, esp southern NE we love calcium chloride road treatment which eats trucks. Wax well before winter arrives!!

 

[radixr]

Power Service

When I switched to Power Service fuel conditioner, my mileage increased by 10%. This is not a one-time fluke. It has stayed there for several thousand miles now since this past summer. Oo. Oo.

 

[jmorse]

Ulsd is not able to be cut with kero according to my texaco rep. Therefor we will need anti-gel as well as lubricity protection. I also have heard that some current additives do not work with ULSD. I am trying to figure my best option for treatment as winter is close at hand.

 

[Diesel Manor]

The Stanadyne has all been reformulated to work with the ULSD. We stock the Winter 1000, Performance Formuls, and Lubricity Formula. Fuel Additives

 

[GAmes]

Ulsd is not able to be cut with kero according to my texaco rep. Therefor we will need anti-gel as well as lubricity protection. I also have heard that some current additives do not work with ULSD. I am trying to figure my best option for treatment as winter is close at hand.

By kero do you mean # 1 diesel? Not the same thing. Winter blend is varying proportions of #1 and #2. There are some northern states that #1 isn't even available, I know because I carried 50 gallons of fuel bought in Matthews, Mo for about 1000 miles until the filter ungelled on it's own. You are correct that #1 has less lubricity than #2, but you allude that ulsd is lower also. Not from the references I have read. I use additives in an attempt to combat gelling, but believe they are snake oil for any other purpose.

 

[dieselshu]

Fuel treatment

I use amalgamated treatment out of FT Wayne, IN, Great stuff $60 for 5 gal pail. Just ask for the TDR blend.



amalgamated



Dave

 

[Kissfan113]

all the stations around here pre mix so i never have to worry about it. although when i do get a lil concerned i head for the big white bottle of power service diesel additive, never let me down yet.

Kevin

 

[Diesel Dummie]

I run howes in my big truck and the stuff is great, i will be running it in my CTD also, i live in upstate ny.

 

[BigPapa]

Ulsd is not able to be cut with kero according to my texaco rep.

Exactly what does this mean? What will happen if you mix kerosene with the ULSD? When it gets really cold for here in Middle Tennessee, which is from 0*-10* (No laughing you yankees! ), I have always just added a few gallons of kerosene. Haven't had a problem yet. If the only problem is in the new particulant filters then I guess I'll be OK.



Scott

 

[Turbo Tim 1]

Exactly what does this mean? What will happen if you mix kerosene with the ULSD? When it gets really cold for here in Middle Tennessee, which is from 0*-10* (No laughing you yankees! ), I have always just added a few gallons of kerosene. Haven't had a problem yet. If the only problem is in the new particulant filters then I guess I'll be OK.



Scott

Lubricity! All you'll need is a little additive for the gelling and don't bother with the kero. If you're going to add kero just add a quart of 10w30 and you'll probably be fine

 

[BPickerel]

I use amalgamated treatment out of FT Wayne, IN, Great stuff $60 for 5 gal pail. Just ask for the TDR blend.



amalgamated



Dave

Thanks, been looking for something, and Ft. Wayne isn't that far from me.