Engine/Transmission (1998.5 - 2002) fuel additives

[Tractorat]

Ive been using stanodyne since maybe 2007. I lost my first LP at around 52k miles. Lost the second one recently at about 103k miles. So, I had a FASS installed. Told I shouldnt have to go thru that again.

My question is, if I now have the FASS, do I still need to use a fuel additive ?

Thanks

 

[Killgore]

Tractorat, I also use Stanadyne, filter the heck out of the fuel with three different filters (9,5, and 3 microns absolute) and buy fuel from large volume dealers. My hopes are that I am keeping everything downstream free and clean of contaminates, improving the cetane rating and providing an increase in lubricity. I've done everything that I know of to provide the CP3 and injectors with clean fuel and therefore extend their life expectancy.

- Ed

 

[JR]

Your lift pump (regardless of brand) does not care about lubrication. It is the VP44 and all rotary style injection pumps that benefit from lubrication. It is a combination of tight tolerances of the rotor in the distributor and high pressures that make a rotary pump susceptible to failure when ran out of fuel or ran on poor quality fuel, and adding some lubricity back to the fuel helps keep the tight tolerances tight. A good quality additive will also contain detergents to keep soot build up and injector deposit to a minimum and boost cetane by a few points.

 

[Tractorat]

Thanks,
Then I guess Ill keep using the stanadyne.

 

[SnoKing]

I put a quart of Wally World TWC3 2 cycle oil in a tank fill up. Motor runs quieter! Started doing it years ago! Snoking

 

[AnOldBiker]

I've use the 2 stroke oil only for years and never had an issue. 1 oz per gallon of diesel.

Here is an older report, but is still relevant.

 

[goodguys75]

I use the diesel kleen by power service..smells just like the standyne..and a lot cheaper and easier to get a wally world...

 

[Killgore]

Goodguy, it smells like Stanadyne, and most of the rest do to. Pull up the MSDS and compare ingredients. I was a little amused when I realized they were all pretty much the same thing. (It's a bummer when you look behind the smoke and mirrors.) I wonder how many buy the material in bulk from the same formulator and just re-package into their own containers?

I continue to use them because I know the lubricity needs some help because of the ULSD issue but I wonder if the 2-cycle oil wouldn't be a better choice?

- Ed

 

[AnOldBiker]

Before I retired I worked in the oil industry and was surprised with the fuel injector cleaners they were selling on the market and putting into the fuels. At that time there were 6 manufactures making it. They had the same chemicals, but the formula was 'slightly' different. One would have a few more ounces "per batch" of one chemicals verses the others, but the base chemicals were the same in all brands with providers different names. Also, there might be a different recommend amount per 10 gallons of fuel you mix it with, but in reality, insignificant. Also the base stock of gasoline and diesel is the same from company to company, just the final additives for octane / cetane were different, the same rational as in the above mentioned cleaners. That is why I don't have a certain special brand of fuel or additives I use. Just how much do I want to pay.

 

[Killgore]

Ha! Just as I figured. Years ago I worked with a guy that had worked previously for Lubrizol. He said they produced most of the oil additives that were shipped out to be re-packaged and were being sold as 'unique' oil treatments but were all basically the same.

 

[goodguys75]

Goodguy, it smells like Stanadyne, and most of the rest do to. Pull up the MSDS and compare ingredients. I was a little amused when I realized they were all pretty much the same thing. (It's a bummer when you look behind the smoke and mirrors.) I wonder how many buy the material in bulk from the same formulator and just re-package into their own containers?

I continue to use them because I know the lubricity needs some help because of the ULSD issue but I wonder if the 2-cycle oil wouldn't be a better choice?

- Ed

over the years reading on here i have read how people use 2stroke oil for there trucks, but I'm not into that...and they also say not to use any lubricants at all, per the factory...but when i had an injector problem and put in some of the diesel kleen in the tank...it went away and never gave me an issue...so about every 3 tanks i put in some cleaner....

 

[SnoKing]

Just make sure what you use does not contain acetone or solvent as some do! Snoking