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Maybe I'm missing something here, but what is wrong with the stock Cummins oil drain bolt? I have never had a problem in the 7-8 years I have owned my truck, and it just takes a 3/8" drive wrench to tighten or loosen it. I don't think I would want to replace it with something that hung down further then the stock plug, just doesn't make sense.
 
So do you need the adapter. the part number is F-104. I was just curious on the nipple and the adapter. So what all do we need.
 
y-knot it is just simple to flip the lever and let her go. The main reason I did it was I did not want to over tighten or strip the plug threads in the pan. It does take a while to drain but I am not in that big of a hurrry.
 
I agree with y-knot. I've been changing oil since 1960 and never had any trouble with the stock plug. I prefer the oil to flow out fast and hot to remove any sediment that might otherwise settle to the bottom of the pan. I don't want that thing hanging down where it could be broken off. And the stock plug doesn't cost extra. :D
 
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EEdmondson said:
I agree with y-knot. I've been changing oil since 1960 and never had any trouble with the stock plug. I prefer the oil to flow out fast and hot to remove any sediment that might otherwise settle to the bottom of the pan. I don't want that thing hanging down where it could be broken off. And the stock plug doesn't cost extra. :D

Plus, it sticks up into the pan by as much as 1/2" and you do not get a complete drain. I had one on a previous vehicle and once the drain had completed, I would remove the valve to get out the last 1/2 pt or so. With the position of the drain plug pointing straight down this gadget would be extremely vulnerable. JMO



Ian
 
Alright guys, here is what IMunro is talking about. The Fumoto plug looks like this:



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The drain plug threads in the oil pan look like this:



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So where the baffle is, the oil will not drain, however if you modify the Fumoto drain plug the way I did, like this:



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You will not have a oil draining problem. They work great. And no oil running down your hands and arms!



Now you will hear from others that it hang down too far about 7/8". Well if you are a serious 4 Wheeler, this may be something to consider, however for myself on highway, city streets, gravel roads and logging roads there is nothing to worry about. It is also protected by your front axle, if you have FWD.
 
I've been changing oil for 500 years and never had a problem, so why should I choose a better solution?? LOL. Also cave men lived for years in caves without problems, why do you want electricity?



The fumoto valve makes oil changes easier. I've had them for over 200k miles, one of them on a car that it's just inches above the ground, and never had a problem. Unless you are a rock crawler that constantly smacks the bottom of your truck, you will not have a problem. These are sturdy little valves, and no they won't just accidentally pop open, they actually require a decent bit of finger effort. I forked out the extra $1 for a little clip that makes it impossible to open just for a warm and fuzzy feeling anyway.



What happened to me when changing the oil a few years back really convinced me to buy these for all my vehicles. The car is at full operating temp so the oil is hot. I unscrew the drain plug and oops, it slips out of my fingers, and falls into the oil collection pan. I had no magnet nearby and the oil was way too hot to stick your hand in, so I had to watch as the drain plug PLUGGED the hole in the collection pan, and 9 quarts of dirty delvac 1 overflowed the pan and onto my garage floor. Oh the sea of black and the sea of swear words flowing out of my mouth! I tried everything to get that plug out of the hole but no luck. With the fumoto I never would have had an issue, since you never have to remove it, or you could just stop the flow. Makes it really nice for oil analysis samples.
 
I installed one on mine so I don't get how oil down my arm and so I could shut the flow off easily if the oil drain container gets full and runs on the floor. :rolleyes: I hate that when that happens.



My concern was snagging something on the drain lever and opening the valve :eek: So took a small tie wrap that fit snug in the slot behind the lever and tighened her snug. Now the lever won,t move. I feel better now :D



The hole drilling seems a wise thing to do. Thanks Big Bob :)
 
cArNiVaLwOrKeR said:
Bob, If I send you mine will you drill it for me?



It's really easy to do, all you need is a vise, drill and 3/16 drill bit. However, if you don't have those items, send me a PM and I would be glad to help you out.
 
Greg at lubespecialist.com sells little clips for $1 that you squeeze with pliers and slide over the fumoto. There is no way that it can pop off, seeing how it takes a few tries with the pliers to get it off. I'm sure a zip tie could work well too but you have to cut and use a new one each time.
 
Well I certainly don't think I am a "Cave man", and I have never feared change. I pretty much live to modify and improve parts and pieces that other consider just fine. I am not afraid to spend money, lord knows that as I spend more each year on parts then most spend for house payment, car payment and utilities combined. But what I don't do is change something that works just fine, for something else that is not as good. I see know advantage to the oil drain cock, it sits lower and is more vulnerable to road damage then the stock oil plug it replaces. It takes longer to drain the oil pan and it has moving parts to vibrate loose or leak. The stock unit could not be more efficient, it has nothing to shake loose, can not be easily opened to allow the oil to drain by accident or by evil prankster. The stock drain plug sits just below the oil pan, not several inches below where it is exposed to damage, and their is no danger of cross threading or striping the stock plug if you posses a minimum amount of intelligence, and take your time while re-installing the plug. Also, realize that the drain plug has a sealing washer under it and needs to be re-placed every once in a while. These are easily purchased for mer pocket change at any deal ship.

You are free to buy anything that comes to market, good bad or in between, but don't try and sell something on the basis that it replaces a defective or troublesome part when it doesn't. The stock oil drain plug works just fine, and does not need replacement. What you are selling is convenience, for some it might make the oil change easier, but it does nothing to make the oil plug better. I do not live in the ice age, but I will continue to use my old oil drain plug and be happy.
 
The Fram Sure Drain works very well, and in my opinion has several advantages over the Fumoto, it is made from steel not brass so there is little risk of snapping it off or stripping the threads, the drain mechanism can only be utilized with the provided screw on fitting, there is no way to get it to drain without it, comes with a O-ring sealed cap to keep dust and dirt out, and finally cost, though not very important, the Sure Drain can be had for about $13 from any Wal-Mart. Check it out, www.fram.com
 
Talk about taking it personally, geez y-knot. Nobody said YOU were a cave man - the point was that new technology sometimes allows us to do things with less effort or offers other advantages.



A few statements you make are completely your opinion and you seem to state them like they are facts. You ask why would you replace an oil drain plug for something that's not as good, which is clearly your opinion. The Fumoto is certainly easier to use, it's much easier to just flip a valve than get a ratchet out and removing the stock plug. Also you have to be careful to get the plug out just right to avoid hot oil on your arm, or it falling in the collection pan. You also don't have to get a torque wrench to PROPERLY torque the drain plug with the fumoto.



If you had actually seen a fumoto in person, you would not exaggerate about its characteristics - first of all it doesn't hang down 'inches,' the whole thing may stick down 1 inch at most. Secondly it's designed so that it's impossible for it to 'vibrate loose or leak', and there is only one moving part. The oil drains nearly as fast, and lets be honest - most folks on here are meticulous enough that we let the oil drip and drain until it's done anyway. .



I can agree on a basic level that there is nothing 'wrong' with the stock drain plug, but lets not try to act like it's better than a fumoto. .
 
LightmanE300 said:
What happened to me when changing the oil a few years back really convinced me to buy these for all my vehicles. The car is at full operating temp so the oil is hot. I unscrew the drain plug and oops, it slips out of my fingers, and falls into the oil collection pan. I had no magnet nearby and the oil was way too hot to stick your hand in, so I had to watch as the drain plug PLUGGED the hole in the collection pan, and 9 quarts of dirty delvac 1 overflowed the pan and onto my garage floor. Oh the sea of black and the sea of swear words flowing out of my mouth! I tried everything to get that plug out of the hole but no luck. With the fumoto I never would have had an issue, since you never have to remove it, or you could just stop the flow.



It's good to see that I am not the only one that has done this. I was waiting for one of my neighbors to call the EPA or something as I watched thatstream of dirty crude flowing down the driveway... I am definately adding one of these at my next oil change.
 
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