Geno`s Manual Trans Filter

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Installed Geno`s Manual Transmission filter about 2 years ago. Drained & changed trans fluid today. It looks like the filter did a good job. It was black with crud. Purchased just the filter & gaskets this time for the rebuild. Happy with the performance. If anyone has any questions, or needs tips on installation, I can provide them #ad



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Bill R
94 2500 SLT,4X4,5 Speed,3. 54 LSD... . Still looks brand new... .



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Hey Bill,
I was planning to order one of those... did you run synthetic in it? Or just left whatever was in it, that the truck came with when you bought it ?

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2001 Ram 3500 4x4 Quad Cab,all black(Sport pkg. ) Cummins24v, 5speed, 3. 54,all options including leather , AMSOIL Dual Remote bypass oil filter,AMSOIL air filter,Westin black nerf bars, limo tint
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Just changed mine the other day and had the same results. I was suprised at the amount of crud it collected. Definetly a worthwhile investment.

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'96 2500,4x4,CC,5spd,TST 280hp plate, Banks cat-back exhaust, Scotty air system.
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Briar,

I had Amsoil Series 2000 75W90 in it. Replaced it with the same product. This is a GL-5 gear lube. A GL-4 lube is recommended for the NV4500. GL-5 lubes are said the harm the "yellow metals",synchro`s ect. This only happens when the lube temperature goes way up. Scott Dalgleish from the TDR tried to get the transmission temp high enough to where the "yellow metals" would start to be effected. Couldn`t do it. Heavy towing in hot weather ect. Another member had a transmission go south on him. The rebuilder found no damage to the yellow metals. The member had been running Amsoil series 2000 75W90 for 100K miles I think. I ran Redline GL-4 lube for a year. It shifted like crap.

With your new truck, I`d stay with what D/C recommends ,75W90 GL-4 lube. #ad


Big E, I was surprised at the crud that is being produced in the transmission too. I should have got a good strong magnet to put in the filter housing. I think there is a magnet somewhere in the transmission, but its not accessable without dismantling it. I may change the fluid more often now. The old rearend fliud was cleaner than the transmission fluid.

A note: New lubes in the transfer case, transmission, and rear axle really seem to tighten up the drivetrain. #ad


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Bill R
94 2500 SLT,4X4,5 Speed,3. 54 LSD... . Still looks brand new... .



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Bill, thanks for the advice !
Uuuhhh... one more question, please don't throw the old, dirty filter at me...
Did you run Amsoil in the rear pumpkin(front,too?) and if so, did you put in an additive? I'm reading here and there that the rear end doesn't run quiet with pure Amsoil.
5500 miles on my Mule now, all this "What to do about lubricants" is driving me nuts... TDR needs to hire a lubrication engineer to call our own.....
Tom

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2001 Ram 3500 4x4 Quad Cab,all black(Sport pkg. ) Cummins24v, 5speed, 3. 54,all options including leather , AMSOIL Dual Remote bypass oil filter,AMSOIL air filter,Westin black nerf bars, limo tint
NRA Life/Endowment member(it's about freedom, not guns!)

 

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HEMI Dart, I'm still mulling over the possibility of adding one of those filters to my 241HD. Have you tried this? It was suggested to me that the filtering media might not be compatable with the ATF, either chemically, or viscosity wise.

Does anyone have any further thoughts on this?

 

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Briar,

I am running Amsoil Series 2000 75W-90 in the front diff and the rear diff. The front axle does not require an additive, because its not a limited slip unit. None of our trucks are, unless the owner as changed it to an aftermarket limited slip gearchuck.

I was skeptical about not adding a friction modifier with the Amsoil lube in the rear end. In the past I have used 2 products that said the same thing. "Limited slip additives are not required". These were Torco 75W-90 and Redline Shockproof gear lube. These are top of the line Heavy duty Synthetic racing lubes. Torco chattered & popped around corners bad. Ended up adding 12 oz friction modifer. Still chattered. Redline was even worse. The truck was undriveable. An uneducated driver would have thought the rearend was blown. Added 12oz friction modifier to that too. Still chattered. Put Amsoil in 2 weeks ago, haven`t heard a sound, rumble or pop yet. I was amazed!
The Amsoil Series 2000 75W-90 is a newer product. The older Amsoil gear lubes might not be as effective as this. If your truck does not have a limited slip rear axle, you will be fine with any lube.

John,
As far as I know, the transfer case does not have a PTO housing cover, where this filter assembly would replace. Hold on a sec, there is a NV 021 PTO adapter that is an option on 2500 & 3500 models with automatic transmission. It looks similar to a transfer case. does you truck have one of these? As far as the compatibility of the filtering media and ATF, I`m not sure. #ad


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Bill R
94 2500 SLT,4X4,5 Speed,3. 54 LSD... . Still looks brand new... .




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HEMI - just got mine in today from Geno's w/Kleen wheels "skins". 2 questions -- 1) does it go on the pass or drivers side? 2) is there an "easy" place to drill and tap for a drain plug (if there is I need to get everything ready first - no other transportation avail)?

Thanks for the reply (if you could - send to my e-mail address also).

\\BF//

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"Drifty" y2k SLT L. E. 2500QC/SWB/5sp/3. 54LSD/bed spray/camper/tow/fogs as DRL's/3rd Brake flasher/hr mtr/altr isolator/Mag-Hytec/Ball valve oil drain/CB/25. 5k hitch/NO muffler&resonator(STOLEN?)-3" replacement w/chrome tip/Nerf bars/E-Brake/etc.

Not Stroking, BUT, RAMming it Home! \\BF//

 

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The NV124HD transfer case has a power take-off cover with the same (standard) bolt pattern as all other PTOs I've seen. I was just wondering if anyone has experimented with the use of the Geno's Garage filter assembly on their NV241HD. Anyone?

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'98. 5 2500 QC 4x4, (BLACK) SLT Sport, ISB, LWB, 3. 54 LSD, A/T, Glasstite Vision II canopy, Line-X bed liner, 285/75R16 BFG A/Ts on 16x8 M/T Challengers, Warn 4X Boards, Mopar fender flares, front and rear NW Custom stainless steel/rubber mud flaps, Mag-Hytec diff. cover and trans. pan, Edelbrock IAS shocks, Mopar tow hooks, Jordan Research Ultima 2020 trailer brake controller, VDO Vision gauges, PIAA Dual Sport 900 auxiliary lights and Super White bulbs, BD exhaust brake and TorqLoc, Prime-Loc fuel filter relocation kit, Bosch 275 hp. injectors, VA CPC, DD Boost Module, Banks Stinger wastegate actuator, "Scotty Air System", BLACK '00 valve cover, Hitco/Geno's exhaust blanket, Femco/Geno's EZ Drain oil pan plug, Banks Stinger 4" dia. stainless steel exhaust system, BD ______ TC and valve body, BD modified transmission front pump and PressureLoc, plus many other trick modifications

Coming Atractions: '00 Sport headlights and '00 Sport grille (I'll squeeze it in somehow)

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BTW HEMI Dart, the Red Line Shockproof synthetic gear oil is not recommended for street driven vehicles, it's for racing applications that see INTENSE ring and pinion SHOCK loading. . as in drag racing. Red Line recommends the use of their synthetic 75W90 gear oil for almost all street driven vehicles. I have used this gear oil for at least nine years, experiencing NO ill effects in many different vehicles! However, the Trac-Loc LSDs require additional friction modifier due to the tightness in which they are set up. This may be bothersome to some although, it allows one to custom tune their LSD characteristics to suit THEIR requirements.

When I set up a new set of gears I use a non-synthetic gear oil for at least the first 100 mi. as a break-in lube, changing to the Red Line synthetic after the initial break-in period. I have experienced almost ZERO wear after using this method.

 

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Ben,
The trans filter goes on the passenger's side. Mine came with a sheet of instructions from Geno's detailing that and the order of the gaskets (trans, paper, plate, cork, cover). Did you not get that sheet with it? Also, you don't need to add a drain plug as the mounting bolts go all the way through into the fluids. You just remove the bottom bolt and the fluid pours out. The only reason to put in a drain plug would be to drain out the fluid from the filter itself but I don't think there is enough clearance down there for one to fit. Besides if you are replacing the fluid I'd replace the filter too. BTW, you'll need some thread sealant for the bolts - they don't tell you that!


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'98 Quad Cab Long Bed (CMNSPWR), 4x4, ISB, 5sp, 4. 10 LSD, Prime-loc remote fuel filter, boost & pyro gauges, TST Powermax, muffler eliminator, 5" chrome tip, BD Exhaust Brake, Isspro turbo temp monitor, Permatech spray in liner, Grizzly stainless nerf bars, Stull SS grill & bumper inserts, Front Draw-Tite receiver, BFG 285/75R16 AT KO's

 

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Ben,
Steve is right. It mounts on the passenger side. The rotating gears will sling the lube to that side. Sending it thru the filter. Use sealent or thread tape on the bolts like Steve said. Use a good permetex type oil resistant sealer on the gaskets. Cover them thoughly. Don`t over torque the bolts. Just snug them. The cork gasket will crush easily. You don`t want a leak. #ad


John,

Now I`m confused. I triple checked my transfer case for a PTO cover. It does not have one. The service manual reads," A PTO gear is only used on heavy duty versions of the NP241. The standard model is not equipped for PTO capability. "

For some reason my truck has the standard NP241. See signature. I thought the HD version was standard equipment on a 5. 9 Cummins & V-10 equipped trucks. The service manual says it is. My hood tag says I have the standard duty T-case . I thought I had the HD version all along. Its wonderful to just find out I don`t. #ad
How this truck got a "standard duty" T-case... I dunno.

John, You were right!. I feel like an ass. Thanks for correcting me. A thought about Geno`s filter on the tranfer case. The lube needs to "sling" at the filter housing to be effective. Whether the ATF would do this in the location of the PTO cover on the case... I`m not sure.

The literature I got from Red Line before I purchased the lube said nothing about the "shockproof" series being "RACE ONLY". If it had, I would have steered away from it. Now that I am reading the literature, I could have made a better choice. After I added the friction modifier, it didn`t pop & chatter that much. Backing up sometimes. I had it in the rear diff for about 30K miles. When I drained it , the color of the lube looked like the day I filled it and the magnets (magnaguard cover) had very litte metal on them. I should have kept it in for another 30K miles. Very good product. Have you ran their Diesel Oil?

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Bill R
94 2500 SLT,4X4,5 Speed,3. 54 LSD... . Still looks brand new... .



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Thanks Guys!! I found the sheet in the box and yes, it doesn't say to use a bolt sealer. Tks for the other tips on draining, sealant.

Posted the above more for info for others BUT, it paid off, AGN!!!!

\\BF//

 

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Hemi,
The 241HD is standard on the 3500, but optional on the 2500.

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99'2500 SLT QC LB 4x4
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Thanks for the info TV-10. Oh well, 4WD is not used that much. Only in the winter. #ad


John, I found the manufacture of the PTO cover filter. I searched around to see if I could find an answer on ATF & filter compatibility. Couldn`t find anything.
http://truck. eaton.com/na/index.htm




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Bill R
94 2500 SLT,4X4,5 Speed,3. 54 LSD... . Still looks brand new... .

 

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A tip a wish I had done when I had the PTO cover filter off for draining & cleaning. Get a good strong magnet and place it in the filter housing. There was alot of crap in there. I was surprised. #ad


Here is a good sourse w/very good prices on Neodymium Iron Boron Magnets, the strongest magnets known to man. http://www.wondermagnet.com/dev/magnets.html

These are Ultra strong. Note some of the warnings. "If you have not handled Neodymium magnets before, please order something smaller so you understand the dangers here".


See item # 37 too. #ad



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Bill R
94 2500 SLT,4X4,5 Speed,3. 54 LSD... . Still looks brand new... .



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The instruction sheet(s) that came with my filter (from Geno"s)has instruction's for which side of transmission and whether to mount top up or down for many different trannys including for the dodge 5 speed, but no instructions for my 6 speed (nv5600)

Any one know?
Thanks.

Vaughn