Get rid of the Cat.

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Ok, got the Air Silencer removed and my fuel mileage improved. I didnt notice that much difference in the sound since I had eliminated the muffler and had a K & N Air Filter previously.

Bombs away!!

Ok, now tell me how to get rid of the Cat. Am I required to purchase a Banks system? Or is there a less expensive way? What does a Banks cost and approximate installation cost?

What can I expect after I eliminate just the Cat and then what would be the difference between the Cat and installing the Banks system.

Is there more than one Banks System for my 12 valve auto? Is there a better exhaust system on the market?



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98 12 valve 4x4 Quad cab, 3:54 rear, Auto.

 

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I did mine for 28. 00, I cut the cat off and remove the muffler. I the had a piece of 3" pipe cut to length I needed(6' or so), expanded on each end. Slipped it over the pipe that went into the cat and over the pipe for the tail pipe assembly. Clamped it down , that was it. It sounds awsome, kind of loud when you hammer on it #ad
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. Sounds like a big rig with straight pipes. The turbo whistle thru the exhaust is a sweet sound.

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97 Dodge cab/chassis 1 ton,Allison at 545 4spd auto, Brown-Lipe 3spd auxillary, 4. 10's,11'flatbed w/ monorail, bd injectors, K&N filter,Cobra 29 CB, Wilson 2000, electcric & V/H brakes, 50 gal. aux tank, pulling 20' 12 k cap tag-along flatbed trailer,
225,000 miles and counting

 

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A Banks system doesn't get rid of the cat. I replaced mine with straight pipe from NAPA. They carry all sizes of pipe,reducers,couplings & clamps to do what ever you want. It cost about $15 each to replace my two.

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95' 25004X4,AT,Driftwood,Banks,Warn fender flairs and running boards(Play truck)95 3500,5 speed,driftwood,Banks&phscotty,34,000 GCVW apple and tractor hauler(work truck)

 

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Go to your local Dodge Dealer and order part #52019170AB. It is a section of 4" pipe flared down on one end to 3". It fits in place of the cat perfectly. Costs about $45.


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'96 2500,4x4,CC,5spd,TST 280hp plate & AFC kit, Banks cat-back exhaust, Pyschotty air.
Amsoil Bypass, Rancho RS9000's' Westach combo guage. Mag-Hytec rear cover.

 

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All you have to do is remove all the clamps on either side of the cat and, due to all the heavy crimping from the morons who assemble the damn thing, hammer the living hell out of the system until you pull the cat from the system. Then stand the thing up, use a garden hose and squirt water into it to prevent the soot from blowing in your face. Take a big, long prybar and a shot-filled hammer (or an air chisel if you have one) and hammer away at the innards of the cat until you break it up enough to knock it all out the 4" side. Prepare to hammer for about an hour. Re-assemble the thing and it still looks like it has a cat on it, but smells and performs so much better.

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520 Rear Wheel H. P. and 800+ ft/lbs Torque = 15. 5 sec @ 97 mph with the rear wheels spinning in 5th gear going through the traps in the quarter mile. No slicks here, pal, no fancy auto transmission, just the truck in full street trim, 7400 lbs. of Auto Wurks Diesel/BD Performance raging, fire-breathing DIESEL POWER

 

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I gutted mine which took all of 10-15 minutes. The REAL job was getting the damn thing off the pipe.

Once off, get a spade or auger drill bit, 1/2"-7/8 or so,with an extension if possible, and drill a bunch of holes right down the middle and at angles, thru the ceramic inside, in the same direction and intake and outlet the exhuast gases go. It falls out like broken ceramic in minutes. . No or little pounding with a hammer. #ad


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1997 3500 Dually CC, Emerald Green 5 speed, 4:10 , Reese 15K 5th hitch, K&N Air Filter, Jacob E-brake, gutted cat, running boards. Maybe more,if I can keep it out of DC'$ hands. .

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I know theyre a sponsor and all... . but spend your money elsewhere other than Banks! Good products, but too little, for too much!

 

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I have to agree about the Banks stuff. It's top quality, but way overpriced for what you get. I bought my 3. 5 inch muffler and tailpipe when they first came out and paid dearly.

Lessons in life, they never end.

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'96 2500,4x4,CC,5spd,TST 280hp plate & AFC kit, Banks cat-back exhaust, Pyschotty air.
Amsoil Bypass, Rancho RS9000's' Westach combo guage. Mag-Hytec rear cover.

 

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I did the Dodge CAT test pipe. Don't you just love the names. #ad
I was carrying mine across the parking lot of the muffler shop & the owner comes out, folds his arms, S eating grins & says, "Now what are you doing!" I had just had him put in a 4", 45 degree mandrel bend to route the pipe straight out the back. #ad
He put on the test pipe, no receipt, cash only. #ad
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Where there is a will, there is a way. He is a fellow dieseler.

Quicker spool up, less egt, more of that keen turbo whine. By the way, you can hear the turbo whine real well going down the hwy. The wife was driving it & I was on the Wing. Now that WILL bring a #ad
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Money Sink - 96, 5 speed, TST #11/280 slid to 340 position + Injectors.
4" CAT back & CATless, 4" chrome turn down straight out back.
Stand back & listen to the turbo whine :-}~
ISSPRO Pillar, Delvac 1 & Amsiol, K&N, Monicas silencer ring removed, Exhaust brake, Mag-Hytec, 3:54, 235s.
HX35s days are numbered, HX40-16 is here.
Un-Bombed = Boring

 

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stanman:

I did what "Big E" and "Forrest"
did with the "Dodge CAT Test Pipe. "
The cost on mine was about $38. 00.
As "Forrest" told you, "quicker
spool up and lower EGT'S. " The
first "run" I made after putting
the "test pipe" on produced the
most unbelievable amount of smoke
you can imagine!!!!

My converter was clogged so bad
it looked like "Kingsford" Charcoal
Briquets falling on the ground when
we cut it apart!!!!

Anyway, good luck!!



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Red '96 4x4 2500 Auto 3. 54, TST #5, Pump Mods, Banks Exhaust, Prime Loc, Cummins Chrome Kit, Pro-Torque Converter, BD Valve Body, Sendel 16" Alum Wheels w/ 33" BFGs

 

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OK, had the cat taken off today, now catless. Put a straight pipe on. Am I imagining the boost that I felt, WOW. You gotta love it.

 

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stanman what other mods do you have to your truck????

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I was afraid the exhaust would be to loud with a straight pipe so I went for a glass pack that you can see thru. Very happy with it. Fuel milage improved, better response and I like the sound. Cost installed $110. Kittys under the work bench where she belongs.

 

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My cat is still on. Pulled out the intestines though. Run a pipe through it. Weld it back up. Looks legal too me. Remember some dealers check for that stuff when time to trade. Keep the kitty just incase.

 

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Can you still pass emission tests (Colorado)when you remove the CAT?

WD

 

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OK guys!!!! After reading this, its going to cause me some work this weekend. I have been putting this off long enough, it is going to happen. And with doing the work myself, I would be willing to give up my lunch money allowance to get rid of that kitty. Maybe we could come up with another book, one that I really enjoy '101 uses for a dead(removed) cat'!!!! What do you think???

Rick

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RICK
97 2500,CC,5 SPEED, 3. 54 Limited Slip,Psychotty System,K&N, ISSPRO 3" Pyrometer,Silencer Ring Removed
12,000 RBW 5th Wheel Hitch,25' Excel 5th Wheel,Rancho RSX17000 Shocks

 

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I didnt pull my cat out yet, but I got the clamps loose, and I'm lucky enough to be one of the few that didnt have someone tighten the hell out of the clamps and crush the pipe during assy. I could almost spin the cat in place.
If I was able to get the clamp off the muffler, I could have slid it out.
FYI I soaked the hell out of the clamps for a few weeks with Kroil. Good stuff.
I only did this last week, so I think that is a good endorsement of this product.
Also, I get a dealer discount, and I didnt get it as cheap as John_p got his. Mine was $44. 00 I think.

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98 Quad cab 4X4 2500 12 valve,5 speed,3. 54 rears, 8' bed. Boost and egt gauges but basicly stock except for a "properly adjusted" AFC. Uniden HR 2510, Texas Star 1200 amp. 55,000 Mi as of 8/21/00.
NRA life member. High power/IDPA.


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Patriot what are you waiting for also in your signature was does a properly adjusted afc mean???? just curious how many turns on your star wheel I have have the same truck as you in auto though

 

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I've got inspection next month. Cant be too careful. #ad

It just means I cranked it towards the engine a few turns... . nothing special.
I'm dying to get bombed... ... .

 

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Bought the piece Big E recommended from Dodge has anyone else used this and can I just slide this on by moving the muffler back or do you have to remove the muffler??