GM & Chrysler coming together??

[RBell]

Saw this at lunch today



http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/17186447/

 

[69RoadRunner]

Hmmm. GM is bleeding cash, and they might buy the Chrysler Group?



This reminds me of when KMart was in bankruptcy and bought Sears.

 

[JKinney]

I too had heard rumors/discusion on this issue. But to buy a company that would expand there UAW work force? I think its just talk.

 

[RBell]

Hopefully it's just talk, we don't need a "CUMMAMAX" in the show rooms.



I guess to be honest I could deal with having a GM cabin but everything else needs to be Dodge.

 

[LesStallings]

CNBC is saying GM would buy Chrysler to keep another foreign company out of the US. Maybe a Chinese auto company would want a foothold in the US...



On thing for certain, times they are a changing.

 

[Grizzly]

The article also says that for GM to purchase Chrysler is very unlikely. I'm sure DaimlerChrysler will work it out.

 

[RustyJC]

Maybe a Chinese auto company would want a foothold in the US... .

One thing's for certain, with our trade deficit, China's holding a bunch of U. S. dollars that ultimately are going to have to find a home!! That would be one way to cash a few of those dollars out.



Rusty

 

[Jumbo Jet]

One thing's for certain, with our trade deficit, China's holding a bunch of U. S. dollars that ultimately are going to have to find a home!! That would be one way to cash a few of those dollars out.



Rusty

You know how to make a small fortune in the American made auto business - start with a large one!

 

[RustyJC]

Honda and Toyota seem to be doing OK financially with their U. S. assembly plants.



Rusty

 

[Schrowang]

The rest of the article that I read on FoxNews.com said that the indications were that the Daimler shareholders are the ones who want to get rid of the Chrysler brand. To quote my Irish mother I say, "good riddance to bad cess!"



The article also said that it was more likely that a group of investors would buy Chrysler. I don't think the Chrysler brand or the Dodge/Cummins team are going to go away anytime soon. Oo.



Mike

 

[skipro3]

I heard it was American Motors was buying Chrysler. I thought AM was Chrysler!

 

[RJOL]

This Chrysler/German marriage has been on the rocks every since it was conceived. One things for sure... If diesel stays at or above $3 a gallon, there will be a lot less CTD's on the road in the future. Those of us that pull heavy trailers have to have one, but those who don't will migrate to smaller vehicles. I'd be willing to bet the St. Louis CTD plant shuts down soon and then all remaining CTD's will come out of Mexico...

 

[Grizzly]

This Chrysler/German marriage has been on the rocks every since it was conceived. One things for sure... If diesel stays at or above $3 a gallon, there will be a lot less CTD's on the road in the future. Those of us that pull heavy trailers have to have one, but those who don't will migrate to smaller vehicles. I'd be willing to bet the St. Louis CTD plant shuts down soon and then all remaining CTD's will come out of Mexico...

Good point, you may be right.

 

[KennethS]

Gm would have Cummins that a plus for GM

GM truck would have Cummins this way plus Jeep is doing very well also in the SW. The car line not as good as it need to be. The Dodge truck is holding it own and now with the longer frame a open market. Then keeping the foreign auto from comming in GM might be thinking of also. So there are several reason why GM wants Chrysler. WE just will half to wait and see. I was surprise of this news.

 

[amsoilman]

If you look at the Automotive Magazines, there have been many articles stateing that many of the manufacturers are coming out with Diesl power! Everything that i have read states the Diesel market is going to be the next.





Wayne

amsoilman

 

[RJOL]

... If you look at the Automotive Magazines, there have been many articles stateing that many of the manufacturers are coming out with Diesl power! Everything that i have read states the Diesel market is going to be the next... .

The real reason we buy these CTD's is for the HP and torque for towing/hauling and the Cummins reliability. If you never tow heavy, this truck does not make sense economically. The engine is a $6000+ option and diesel fuel, at least here in Washington State, has been 30-40 cents a gallon more then regular gas for several years. That eats into your fuel economy, over a regular gas engine truck, in a big hurry. There have been attempts, in this country, to bring out diesel powered vehicles, but this has never really panned out (very expensive option, etc). Even Chrysler has been talking about a diesel engine in a smaller truck (i. e. the 1500). We will just have to see if that happens, but I don't expect that consumers will be beating the door down for it.



The bottom line for me is this: If I didn't have a 32' 5th wheel to haul around I would not own this truck. If the price of the diesel option continues to go up, along with fuel cost, and this causes RV sales to go into a decline (which some say has already happened), many others will not own one either...

 

[Alphacowboy]

BUT... . with more market share being dedicated to diesel vehicles, it will drop those 6k dollar engine costs down. If the main stream vehicles end up primarialy diesel powered, the high engine option cost will drop. ITs the whole supply demand thing.

 

[JasonCzerak]

Is it still worth paying for the diesel option? YES!

When you factor in resale, you get most of your "diesel option" money back.



When you factor in After market HP per dollar, diesel is in your favor.



when you factor in reliability. Diesel.



When you factor in fuel prices. There has to be a $1. 00 difference between Diesel and gasoline for it to be uneconomical to drive Diesel. I did some math between a buddy of mine who has a 2500 crew cab long box chubby with the 8 liter gasser (something close to a diesel in power). Based on the amount of money it costs to drive 600 miles, we determined that Diesel has to be $1. 00 more per gallon to be in favor to drive them 600 miles with a gas motor lugging the same weight empty. As for towing heavy, prolly $1. 50+ difference



When I purchased my truck, Diesel was $1. 60/gallon. that was right before it climbed to $3. 20 and settling back down to $2. 50. I'm not going to sell or not buy a new diesel truck because of that. That's retarted when gas is only at $2. 00-2. 30. At this difference you are even getting more for your money then a 1500 gasser multiple displacement technology (at best 21-22mpg!).



If you get a new truck every 3 years, or lease. why bother with diesel at all? Over 6-10 years, it's money well spent.



Your arguments all make sense to downsize when you compare a 7000# diesel to a 3000# hybrid gaser. that's about all

 

[GHarman]

Hopefully it's just talk, we don't need a "CUMMAMAX" in the show rooms.



I guess to be honest I could deal with having a GM cabin but everything else needs to be Dodge.

How about a GM with a Cummins engine, AISIN transmission and NP-205 transfer case. Sorry I am not brand loyal. I havent seen any consumer groups do a side by side durability test on any heavy duty trucks. If the new Dodge trucks have sheet metal and a paint job like my 91 I am not really impressed.

 

[HEMI®Dart]

General Mistake & Chrysler merging turns my stomach.