Good towing figures for 3500 - 06'

[CUMMINZ]

I weighed my 3500 DRW QC 06' this morning. With 24k 5er hitch, lightly loaded tool box, driver only, full of fuel,etc.



front axle 4780

rear axle 3620

Total 8400 pounds



Towing this weekend with my rig loaded with food, misc. gear, light toolbox, chairs, no water or sewer, four adults, 2 weiner type hound dogs & one fluffy type dog, full of fuel.

37' Day Dreamer



front axle 5080

rear axle 7080

RV axles 12,160

Total 24,320



Total pin load was 3460





Total rig GVW is 12,200 + 15,500 pounds= 27,700 pounds

Total recommended GCVW for 3500 DRW is 23,000 pounds





You guys considering a heavy rig using a SRW 2500 or 3500 better think long and hard.



Consider if I installed an inbed 70 gallon fuel tank and had load of firewood behind the hitch. :-laf



Rear tires on 2500-3500 SRW are rated at about 6100 pounds per axle. :-{}

 

[AWray]

Sounds like a good workout for the engine.



I went to your web page. I have seen several similar 5ers pulled by 3/4 ton trucks of all makes. Kind of scary.

 

[Silver600]

I pulled my old rig on a scale and got the same kind of numbers, my 04. 5 SRW axle was about 1000 lbs over GAWR so we bought a dually. The pin weight on my Next Level was about 3700, mainly because I only had 2 lightweight quads in the back and the fresh water tank full.

 

[TowPro]

With a trailer that heavy you should have bought a Ford, your Dodge is overloaded!

 

[CUMMINZ]

Tp

I have not seen a Ferd that would do what my Dodge will do.

 

[16919]

i don't think you ever will!!!!!!!!

 

[Diesel Dually]

But you can at least buy a Ford that is rated to tow that without being "overloaded". If the Ford had a more reliable engine that was able to be worked on I would own one.

Personally, I'd tow that weight with either one of my trucks ('96 3500 and '05 3500 SRW), I would just upgrade the tires and rims on the '05.

 

[BBoling]

What D. Dually said, just upgrade the wheels and tires to 19. 5s, and you're all set with a SRW 3500!

 

[RonCar]

Rear tires on 2500-3500 SRW are rated at about 6100 pounds per axle. :-{}

My Toyos are rated at 3640 each so that equals 7280. I am trying to sell my 5th I have now and get a bigger one. Pin weight will be what you have or a little more. I will be getting a Nitto Terra Grappler, or the Toyo A/T that is rated at 3750, which is 7500, I should be fine. ?. ?.



Our trip for Halloween I had it on the scales and with firewood, shovel, kingpin tripod thingy, it was 3200 in the bed and it rode like champ with 60 pounds of air in the bags. New trailer means no firewood in the bed!

 

[Bertram65]

I weighed my 3500 DRW QC 06' this morning. With 24k 5er hitch, lightly loaded tool box, driver only, full of fuel,etc.



front axle 4780

rear axle 3620

Total 8400 pounds



Towing this weekend with my rig loaded with food, misc. gear, light toolbox, chairs, no water or sewer, four adults, 2 weiner type hound dogs & one fluffy type dog, full of fuel.

37' Day Dreamer



front axle 5080

rear axle 7080

RV axles 12,160

Total 24,320



Total pin load was 3460





Total rig GVW is 12,200 + 15,500 pounds= 27,700 pounds

Total recommended GCVW for 3500 DRW is 23,000 pounds





You guys considering a heavy rig using a SRW 2500 or 3500 better think long and hard.



Consider if I installed an inbed 70 gallon fuel tank and had load of firewood behind the hitch. :-laf



Rear tires on 2500-3500 SRW are rated at about 6100 pounds per axle. :-{}

What are saying? it is ok to be over if you have a dually but not a SRW?

Over is over, looks like you should be thinking long and hard, you should have bought a medium duty truck for that size trailer.

 

[WDixon27]

i am guessing it's to show how far over a srw would be, id rather be a little over then a lot

What are saying? it is ok to be over if you have a dually but not a SRW?

Over is over, looks like you should be thinking long and hard, you should have bought a medium duty truck for that size trailer.

 

[CUMMINZ]

Bertram65

I'm not over on my dually. I am under the GVW for my truck. :-laf



I am over 420 pounds on the GVW of my RV.



CUMMINZ

 

[Turbo Thom]

I think what he's saying on the single rear wheel, is with that kinda weight, a single, with a blow out, well you bread is burned. Thing's will stop very quickly.



. . PT. .

 

[CUMMINZ]

My POINT

The point I was trying to make was this:



I own the best equipped 2500 on the market except for the tires. I pulled a 36' Cedar Creek fully loaded to New Mexico and back last year with no problems (Blessed by GOD) and witnessed first hand what a 2500 will do with 14,000 pounds behind me. When I traded this year for a heavier rig I knew that I needed to "think long and hard" about how the whole rig would handle. So I purchased a dually.



Now that I have a dually with a heavier rig that was loaded except for water/sewer water, I knew that this would be an immediate problem for the beginner truck buyer or RV buyer. I just visited the Teton "Experience" website and looked at all those beautiful rigs (many larger than mine) and at the bottom they stress (does not include options or water/sewer water. Carrying a full tank of water and full sewer tanks could run well in excess of 1000 pounds. Many well intentioned folks simply don't think this far ahead when buying either truck or RV. The dealers don't give a damn. I knew publishing the figures would be helpful for some.



So you experienced SRW owners don't get your panties in a wad. :-{}

 

[Turbo Thom]

I think you done good. Better in a wad, than in the ground.

 

[JDubien]

We just returned from our trip. I decided to pull into the scale for reference when we left. My first time on the scales.



38' 5th wheel, full of fresh water, fuel for toys, fuel for gen, firewood in the truck and full of fuel, food, toys (dune buggy and quad), dog and wife.



Front Axle - 4840

Rear Axle - 6600

Trailer Axle - 11640



Gross - 23080



I know I'm overweight but you would know it driving the truck, it has plenty of power, brakes well, air bags with 65psi, handles great... mileage hand calculated 9. 04mpg overall at 65mph on the way and 60 mph on the way back. I'm certainly not breaking any land speed records. The truck will pull nicely at 75mph but why waste the fuel.



My rear tires are rated for 3195 each, so I'm 105lbs over per tire (probably the firewood)



What do you guys think? Is this a bad situation?

 

[RonCar]

We just returned from our trip. I decided to pull into the scale for reference when we left. My first time on the scales.



38' 5th wheel, full of fresh water, fuel for toys, fuel for gen, firewood in the truck and full of fuel, food, toys (dune buggy and quad), dog and wife.



Front Axle - 4840

Rear Axle - 6600

Trailer Axle - 11640



Gross - 23080



I know I'm overweight but you would know it driving the truck, it has plenty of power, brakes well, air bags with 65psi, handles great... mileage hand calculated 9. 04mpg overall at 65mph on the way and 60 mph on the way back. I'm certainly not breaking any land speed records. The truck will pull nicely at 75mph but why waste the fuel.



My rear tires are rated for 3195 each, so I'm 105lbs over per tire (probably the firewood)



What do you guys think? Is this a bad situation?

Buy some Toyo or Nitto E rated 285's and go for it! I hope my scale printouts are as nice as yours! I just sold my 33 ft. Rampage and we are shopping for a new 5er.

 

[JDubien]

We have the 04 377 Rampage and so far its great. Why did you sell yours? I looked at your pics and its a awesome rig.

 

[RonCar]

We have the 04 377 Rampage and so far its great. Why did you sell yours? I looked at your pics and its a awesome rig.

We are probably going to get a Rampage 387. Bought a Rhino and needed more storage area!

 

[GWBourne]

the joy of 19. 5's... .



i will be converting my dodge to a dually in the future. cheaper than buying a new, and i love my truck the way it is set up, just wish it was a dually.



when i do so, i will be spending the "extra" for 19. 5's the next time i buy them it will be 8 of them... 2 more SRW's for the trailer and then the 6 for the truck... ouch.

Grant