Has Anybody Swapped Springs?

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Has anybody swapped their front #39 springs for a set of #46s' ?
I'm thinking about pulling my 2" spacers out and changing springs to compensate for winch sag. I was wondering if anyone has done this and how it worked.
Thanks.

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"Roadrunner"-96 4X4 club cab-12v-auto-3. 54 gears-Amsoil bypass filter - all Amsoil fluids-trans filter-britebox-shelfit-DeeZee boards-Rhino liner-Rancho 5 speed shocks-Hellwig rear antisway & overload springs-Warn 12000 lb. winch-dual redtop optimas-combo gauge and trans. temp gauge in pillar mount-255/85R16 Kelly MSR tires-custom pinstriping- Walker muffler-Cummins mudflaps-Tuff Country control arms-2" coil spacers

 

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Nobody ?

 

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I have the 39/46or47 setup on my 3500 4x4. I still consider them soft. I am thinking of having some custom springs made that are 1" taller than stock.

I do think you will be happy with the swap.

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2000 3500QC 4x4, 6-speed, 3. 54, Patriot Blue, SLT+, Rancho 9K's, Mag-Hytec, Hot PE, 275's, 4" exhuast.

[This message has been edited by Chaw (edited 11-05-2000). ]

 

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Hey Joe,
Call up National Spring and Tire in West Virginia and ask for a set of Skyjacker 2. 5" Lift springs their perfect.
You do not need to order the trailing arms we have alot of trucks around us here without them running that spring without them I know Black Dog is and I am too their a great spring for the money and it will level your truck up perfectly!!

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94' 2500 4x4, 2. 5" Skyjacker, tweaked afc & pump, BIG plate, no muffler or resonator, 16. 5x9. 75 Weld Rims, 33x12. 50 BFG Mud Terrians, 60 psi boost gauge, pryometer, J&J Stainless Steel rear 10" drop bumper w/backup lights, Westin pushbar, PIAA 90 Pro series lights, Weatherguard toolbox 27"

 

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Do you also need longer shocks ????

 

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Yes you guys will need longer shocks but go ahead and replace the shocks we've learned that the stockers are about junk after 30,000 miles anyway just tell them 2. 5 Skyjacker springs and 2 or 4 shocks depends on if you want to do the rear at the same time!!

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94' 2500 4x4, 2. 5" Skyjacker, tweaked afc & pump, BIG plate, no muffler or resonator, 16. 5x9. 75 Weld Rims, 33x12. 50 BFG Mud Terrians, 60 psi boost gauge, pryometer, J&J Stainless Steel rear 10" drop bumper w/backup lights, Westin pushbar, PIAA 90 Pro series lights, Weatherguard toolbox 27"

 

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The springs come red, and I think they run about $105 for the pair. Shocks are around $35 a piece, that is for Skyjacker's. Good luck !

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"Blackdog" 2001 Cummins, 2500, 4x4, QC, SWB, LSD, Auto, Agate Leather, Every Option Available, 33x12. 50 BFG Mudder's on 16. 5x9. 75 Weld Super Singles, 2. 5" Skyjacker, Dee Zee D-Plate Toolbox, Bed Rails, Tailgate Protector, JVD Torque Enhancer, 425 hp Injectors, Isspro Boost/Pyrometer Guages, Boost Module, HX 35 w/12cm housing non-wastegated, Straight Pipe, K&N, high stall Pro Torque Convertor, Valve Body, 4" Chrome Tip, Cobra 29 Sound Tracker Night Watch CB, Comin Soon... Westin brush guard.

"Dodge Makes It, Cummins Shakes It"

 

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SmokinCummins/Blackdog,
I'm curious how much these longer springs actually actually raised your front ends.
I don't see in your signatures that either of you have a winch or a real heavy bumper.
Thanks.

 

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The Skyjacker "leveling" springs raised my front end up about 2", which is a lot. No heavy accessories on the nose though. One of the best mods I`ve done. Hated the nose down look too. Heres the truck after the leveling springs. 36" tires fit & don`t rub anytime,anywhere.

Joe, Don`t bother with the D/C springs. They probably wouldn`t lift the front much, if at all. Lots of good aftermarket companies are producing springs & leveling kits (like you have) to address this problem.
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Bill R
94 2500 SLT 4x4 5 Speed, 3. 54 LS, JRE 4" exhaust, Autometer Pyro, Boost & Water temp gauges, Bosch 215 HP injectors, Timing @ 14. 7 º, JRE Stage III #4 plate 270/675, AFC spring kit, Scotty Air, Bully Dog Propane Injection, Roadmaster Active Suspension, Optima Red Tops, Geno`s Exhaust Blanket,Espar Heater (won it!), Synthetic lubes throughout.

Chaw, Nope, Its the original 1994 "Dark Blue pearl coat"

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Hemi,
Has your truck been repainted Patriot Blue?

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2000 3500QC 4x4, 6-speed, 3. 54, Patriot Blue, SLT+, Rancho 9K's, Mag-Hytec, Hot PE, 275's, 4" exhuast.

 

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A long time ago, I swapped out the 046/039 combination in my 94 for the +2" skyjacker springs. The Skyjackers are wound from 039 stock with a progressive pitch in the winding. This has worked well on my truck with a heavy Reunel bumper/Warn M12000 winch. The front sits about 1" higher with my camper installed; 1. 25" taller without the camper. The progressive wind maintains a reasonable ride quality, while limiting deflection as the load on the spring increases.

Changing the springs is a driveway project that is easier if you have two floor jacks to manipulate the axle, and some HD jack stands or cribbing to support the truck. The front driveshaft, steering links, track bar, and stabilizer bar should be disconnected, but you will not need to disconnect the suspension arms.

Tips: Change the passenger side first, and let the weight of the diff case help you on the driver side. We did this when we first installed the springs and then forgot the trick when we replaced the front axle. Sue and I had a difficult time getting the tall passenger side spring reinstalled. A bottle jack can help press the axle down to get enough clearance to install the taller springs.

FWIW: taller springs will offset the front axle about 3/8" to the driver side of the truck. The offset never seemed to hurt or help the steering on my truck, but the added angle on the track bar caused the upper end to fail repeatedly. I finally replaced it with a DT trackbar which has a heim joint on the upper end, and is adjustable to re-center the axle. It did not help or hurt the steering, but has survived a severe pounding off-road. With taller springs, check the double cardan joint on the front driveshaft (top end at the transfer case output) for binding. Mine would bind and make noise at full axle droop until I installed a reverse cut front axle with a higher pinion. A hard bind under heavy throttle can break the c-joint or damage the transfer case.

Additional notes:

If you like your tires, the front alignment should be checked any time suspension components are changed.

Taller front spring make the rear appear to sag when the bed is loaded. I had to add leaves and helper springs to the rear to keep the headlights out of the trees when the camper is installed and the utility bed is full of gear (loaded GVW around 10400 pounds). The added height on both ends keeps the 245/70R19. 5 (33. 4" tall) tires clear of the suspension and body when the axles are articulated.

Dave

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1994 2500HD 4X4 modified for off-road camping
2001 2500 ETH/DEE QC SB 4X4
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They did raise mine at leat 2". It sits pretty level now, I plan on putting an add-a-leaf in soon to stiffin the rear.

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• 2001 Cummins, Black, QC, SWB, Agate Leather, Every Option Available
• 3:55's, Auto, 4x4, 2. 5" Skyjacker, 33x12. 50 BFG Mudders on 16. 5x9. 75 Weld Super Singles
  [*}JVD Torque Enhancer, Big 425 hp Injectors, Boost Module, HX35 w/12cm housing non-wastegated, High Stall Pro Torque Convertor, Performance Valve Body, Silencer Ring removed
• No Muffler, No Resonator, Isspro Boost/Pyrometer Guages mounted on A-pillar
• Dee Zee Diamond Plate Toolbox, Bed Rails, Tailgate Protector, Chrome Rocker Panels, 4" Chrome Tip
• Cobra 29 Sound Tracker Night Watch CB