Archived Help needed gen I truck heater relay problem?????

[motorheadmic]

HI, I have a gen I truck..... won't run. Think it's heater relay trouble

Dodge doesn't have them..... any ideas..... Truck did start and run the day it died. Got to where i was going to shift into 4th and

started bucking... ... smoking like a son of a b-tch. Anyway didn't

seem to hear the normal clicking... ... so that's why I think it's the relays. Any and all help would be great... ... have to lose the mini van..... ya know..... thanx,MP

 

[blacksheepdiesel]

Need more info MP. What are outside temps where you are? How long since last fuel filter change? If the 1st Gen has a prefilter has it been cleaned? Are you getting electrical current to the wire going into the fuel injection pump? Are you getting electrical current to the fuel heater? How many miles on engine? Also possible on the 1st Gen is the fusible link wire for the ignition melted?



Trent

 

[motorheadmic]

Trent, Filters are good, cooooolllddddd. ,that day 10 or less. Juice???... havn't got there yet..... think it's fine... . but????

She's got like 160+... ... and link is good... ... been there done that.

Fuel heater wire shorted on block and burnt the link a couple of years ago. Thanx,MP

 

[paccool]

MP,



How long did it run before it quit? The fact that it started and ran leads me to believe it is not the air heaters. They may not be working but I think it would still run. Just smoke like a Bi**h as you said. Do you use any fuel conditioners to prevent gelling? It sounds like it may have gelled or you got a little water in the line that may have froze up. After it quit, did you put it in a garage or is it sitting outside? If outside, has it warmed up since this happened?



Had you done any work on the truck just prior to this happening?



I know, lots of questions here.

 

[motorheadmic]

Hey Stan, Ok. . was very cold that morning... she fired up. . let it run... putted over to the nephews(right next store)was idling in driveway... . seamed fine then... . got in backed up,drove down the street... ... and then all hell broke loose. I pulled over,seamed to idle fine... . went to increase rpm... . and it didn't like it to much. Drove the old girl home... puttin... . shut her down. Took a look under the hood... . just checkin... . turned the key..... and didn't hear

the clicking... did it again..... i think you can hear the timer... or something..... but no click. No work had been done before this... . well tie rod end a couple weeks ago but that isn't going to cause this. That same day i did try to restart... . cranked over... seamed like it wanted to..... i did just a few days before put some fresh juice in her. Never had problem with the diesel from there. No i didn't use any anti-gel..... but its on the shelf in the garage... : 0 ) ya i know... . hope to take a better look soon..... oh. . it's still outside... ... thanx,MP

 

[dcamilleri]

sounds to me like a fuel delivery problem. If it is cold enough outside to gel the fuel it will stop you in your tracks with no fuel heater. You could BORROW the wifes hair drier and apply heat to the fuel filter and see if that helps. Also check for fuel pressure from your lift pump to the filter housing and after the housing, next check power to your injection pump solenoid. Since the truck started and ran I doubt if it is a grid heater problem. Also note that if the filter was waxed shut, it is possible to loose your prime in the engine as the engine will burn the fuel in the injection lines until it starts drawing air then it will die. Restarting should be done the same as if it was run out of fuel. Applying heat to the filter will disolve the wax if that is your problem. A little trick I use to start engines like this is to spray wd40 into the intake to help the engine start until it is reprimed. If this is your problem blend your fuel with some #1 50/50 and use your additive. I have had many problems like you speak of when it gets real cold around here, usually -20f or colder can be a real pain even with operating fuel heaters. Hope this helps. Dave

 

[BushWakr - RIP]

Your problem is not likely the heaters... ...



You have something else going on here... .



It is a fuel issue, possibly the start/stop solenoid, lift pump, injection pump, injector(s) to start with...



I'm going to copy this thread into the 1st Gen forum for some extra exposure and have those guys work it out with ya...

Between this post and the copy you'll be up and working pretty quick I bet. .



bob