high performance cummins---from the factory!

[RobertP]

Oo. this sounds real nice, according to the home page cummins will offer a high performance,or several high performance engines in the light duty truck market ( under 8500lbs ). thats us!! man this is great cause i was thinking that the 6. 7 and up were going to be untouchable in the high performance market, looks like the high performance diesel hot rod era is here to stay, and cummins is backing it. :-laf

 

[BRayls]

cat had that years ago and cummins is not even close

 

[jwilliams3]

I dont think your reading it correctly if your serious.

 

[mattymac]

cat had that years ago and cummins is not even close

To bad its a C12, they arent quite going to fit in our trucks.

 

[DMcPherson]

I think most people dont realize that there is more tnan one spec for a b series engine from cummins, in some aplications they go over 500hp. this is not new, chrysler is the one that sets the horsepower spec in the dodge trucks.

 

[RobertP]

I think most people dont realize that there is more tnan one spec for a b series engine from cummins, in some aplications they go over 500hp. this is not new, chrysler is the one that sets the horsepower spec in the dodge trucks.

i respect all of your opinions but the write up says specifically light duty trucks under 8500lbs, that tells me its for our trucks, whats your take on that? if it works out that way?

 

[DMcPherson]

I think that chrysler got smart in the horsepower wars with the new diesel manufacturers, and are finally using real calibrations in the trucks. the new common rail qsb in a marine aplication are available to 540hp.

You can get the b in standard medium duty aplications much higher than what chrysler offers as well.

was what you read or heard from chrysler or from cummins? because chrysler will market it as a higher performance engine, using a standard cummins calibration that has been available in medium duty aplications.

 

[jwilliams3]

RobertP,

You dont have a clue about it do you?



There are 2 engines that Cummins has been trying to sell for a while now.

Maybe someone will clue you in as to what they are.



By the way MOST of the posts are way off as to what that press release is saying.

 

[Eric_77]

i respect all of your opinions but the write up says specifically light duty trucks under 8500lbs, that tells me its for our trucks, whats your take on that? if it works out that way?

Under 8500 Not our trucks. The 2500 is 8800, 3500 is 9900 and up GVW, this must be engines for the Jeep or new motor for 1/2 trucks.

 

[Bob Wagner]

justin was nice enough to arrange a plant tour for us of the mid range engine plant. Thanks again justin



The new engine is a true work of art

 

[jwilliams3]

Anytime Bob!



Eric77 nailed it.

 

[DMcPherson]

huh, never even realized that. does anyone have the press release? I am sort of curious to know, because chrysler advertising is way different thatn cummins. being a cummins employee I generally have an idea of whats going on

 

[RobertP]

RobertP,

You dont have a clue about it do you?



did i affend you in some way. you seem to take this very personal. since i dont have a clue please tell me what is really going on? i can see now that they are not for our trucks. but what kind of market is there for performance diesel jeeps?

 

[Silver600]

Like Eric 77 pointed out, when they say 8500 they are refering to GVWR not the weight of the truck itself.

 

[MRaynor]

I agree with Robert. There was no need to be bashing him, all he was doing was sharing something that he found. There is no need to say something like that just because he did not know all of the facts. That is why most are here, because we don't know and are looking to those of you that do. But we don't need to get ridiculed in the process. You could have been a little more tactful with the answer, and it looks like RIDICULE is what you get to look forward to if you are not sure.



Mike

RobertP,

You dont have a clue about it do you?



did i affend you in some way. you seem to take this very personal. since i dont have a clue please tell me what is really going on? i can see now that they are not for our trucks. but what kind of market is there for performance diesel jeeps?

 

[jwilliams3]

Then ask if you dont know about something.

You'll probably get some good answers.



All Cummins engines are "high performance" is what Robert failed to realize.

There are no "low performance" engines :-laf



Can you imagine a manufacturer trying to a sell an engine that they refer to as a "low performance" unit?



Yes, I could have been a little more tactful but I dont have to. :-laf



Ok now for the information:

The press release is saying Cummins has made an agreement with an OEM manufacturer that supplies north america with light trucks (ie half tons, and small pickups, and SUV's) to produce an engine for this type of vehicle that is already being offered.

What this means is that Cummins engines will be offered in smaller trucks and SUV's. Which is great. It also goes on to say that this new line of engine (s) will probably also be used in some type of RV, bus and marine equipment as all types of Cummins engines have more than one role to fill. Just like the B can be used in a tractor or a pickup.



When they say high performance they mean that they (the new engine) will get great (relatively speaking) mileage have good power and have the quality that you have come to love from Cummins.



Hope this helps.

 

[RobertP]

hey look at that useful information.



but you can see why someone could easily take it the way i did.

 

[ENafziger]

From "Diesel News"



Dodge is likely to get a pair of new high-performance turbocharged diesel engines from its longtime diesel engine supplier, Cummins Inc.



The engines, a 4. 2-liter V-6 and a 5. 6-liter V-8, are scheduled for production in 2010 and probably will first appear in the light-duty 1500 version of the Ram pickup and the Durango SUV.

• 4. 2-liter V-6 -- 190 hp, 455 lbs. -ft. of torque

• 5. 6-liter V-8 -- 260 hp,597 lbs. -ft. of torque

• Single overhead cam with 4 valves per cylinder

• Variable nozzle turbochargers

• Piezoelectric fuel injectors

The Cummins engines were developed in partnership with the U. S. Department of Energy. On the agency's Web site, Cummins documents outline the preliminary specifications for the new engines. Both have overhead cams, four valves per cylinder, aluminum heads and thin-walled cast-iron blocks.



Only a few full-line automakers are known to have a need for diesels: Toyota, Nissan and the Chrysler group.



"It's not Nissan, and it's not Toyota. We're pretty confident that it is Chrysler," said Casey Selecman, a powertrain analyst with CSM Worldwide in suburban Detroit.



If Dodge is the automaker that signed with Cummins, it would be continuing a relationship that started almost 20 years ago. Cummins has been supplying diesel engines for Dodge's Ram trucks since 1989. And the agreement would replace the current contract, signed in 2003, which expires in 2010.



Cummins, of Columbus, Ind. , makes the 325-hp, 5. 9-liter, inline-six-cylinder engine used in the heavy-duty 2500 and 3500 versions of the Ram. That truck is getting an all-new version of the engine in January.



Powerful competition



If Dodge does use the new diesel in the Ram 1500, it would give the Chrysler group a vehicle to compete with a new diesel version of Ford's F-150, which is expected before the end of the decade. Ford is planning to use a 4. 4-liter version of a Land Rover diesel in the F-150.



Diesel plans are less clear for Toyota and Nissan.



Toyota is widely expected to get diesels from its Hino truck affiliate. But Toyota has not announced any time frame. Nissan has been negotiating with International Truck and Engine Corp. , Ford's longtime supplier. Nissan spokesman Fred Standish in Nashville would not comment on potential diesel suppliers.



Land said Cummins is looking for a plant to build the engines. He said the company could buy an existing plant from an automaker or supplier. About 600 jobs will be created. Land said Indiana is on the short list of locations for the new plant.

 

[BRayls]

RobertP,

You dont have a clue about it do you?



There are 2 engines that Cummins has been trying to sell for a while now.

Maybe someone will clue you in as to what they are.



By the way MOST of the posts are way off as to what that press release is saying.

I have been trying to figure a way to mount that huge kitty in my truck for years now. my guess on the new engines are a v-6 and v-8 engine that will now be a blue oval option in the explorer and f 150

 

[BRayls]

From "Diesel News"



Dodge is likely to get a pair of new high-performance turbocharged diesel engines from its longtime diesel engine supplier, Cummins Inc.



The engines, a 4. 2-liter V-6 and a 5. 6-liter V-8, are scheduled for production in 2010 and probably will first appear in the light-duty 1500 version of the Ram pickup and the Durango SUV.

• 4. 2-liter V-6 -- 190 hp, 455 lbs. -ft. of torque

• 5. 6-liter V-8 -- 260 hp,597 lbs. -ft. of torque

• Single overhead cam with 4 valves per cylinder

• Variable nozzle turbochargers

• Piezoelectric fuel injectors

The Cummins engines were developed in partnership with the U. S. Department of Energy. On the agency's Web site, Cummins documents outline the preliminary specifications for the new engines. Both have overhead cams, four valves per cylinder, aluminum heads and thin-walled cast-iron blocks.



Only a few full-line automakers are known to have a need for diesels: Toyota, Nissan and the Chrysler group.



"It's not Nissan, and it's not Toyota. We're pretty confident that it is Chrysler," said Casey Selecman, a powertrain analyst with CSM Worldwide in suburban Detroit.



If Dodge is the automaker that signed with Cummins, it would be continuing a relationship that started almost 20 years ago. Cummins has been supplying diesel engines for Dodge's Ram trucks since 1989. And the agreement would replace the current contract, signed in 2003, which expires in 2010.



Cummins, of Columbus, Ind. , makes the 325-hp, 5. 9-liter, inline-six-cylinder engine used in the heavy-duty 2500 and 3500 versions of the Ram. That truck is getting an all-new version of the engine in January.



Powerful competition



If Dodge does use the new diesel in the Ram 1500, it would give the Chrysler group a vehicle to compete with a new diesel version of Ford's F-150, which is expected before the end of the decade. Ford is planning to use a 4. 4-liter version of a Land Rover diesel in the F-150.



Diesel plans are less clear for Toyota and Nissan.



Toyota is widely expected to get diesels from its Hino truck affiliate. But Toyota has not announced any time frame. Nissan has been negotiating with International Truck and Engine Corp. , Ford's longtime supplier. Nissan spokesman Fred Standish in Nashville would not comment on potential diesel suppliers.



Land said Cummins is looking for a plant to build the engines. He said the company could buy an existing plant from an automaker or supplier. About 600 jobs will be created. Land said Indiana is on the short list of locations for the new plant.

dc has their new diesels coming from benz in the near future the blue what-ever . however I wonder why they think ford does not need one , they dropped the navistar v-6 in the works and said they wanted to pursue other options a year or more ago. those that get the tdr have seen a 1/2 ton dodge with a v-8 cummins in it making nice hp or claimed to be. come on justin let us know what in house rumors are