Hot juice/ fuel supply upgrades?

[spjohnson]

Any recomendations on economic fuel system upgrades, currently upgrading trans and TC and looking at an BB turbo, I don't race and am not lookin for 600 hp plan on around 500 when complete, Daily driver, regular hauler(9000lbs).

 

[mattymac]

I think that pressure isnt the main concern its good fuel supply with superior filtration that is needed to be certain that every part of the fuel system stays healthy. There are some posts in here about filtrating down to 2 microns, it seems that getting contaminants down to this level is what is needed to have a reliable fuel system.



FASS is probably the most used and talked about here on the 4m's with filtration down to 2 microns. You can run pusher pumps for cheaper to supply more than enough fuel but may have problems down the road. I wouldnt skimp here.

 

[Diesel Power]

if you plan on the hot juice you will need a extra relive valve or rail cap------definitely if you drive hard like i do. it adds tons of pressure, you will also need fass fuel system and the duel filter model is a definite. you have every thing else covered. you should end up over 500hp with that combo, maybe a little hot though. good luck Oo.

 

[spjohnson]

valve and rail?

where does the adition valve go and where do I get one? Found the FASS deinately in budget. Just add the FASS and no other pumps? or will I need anything else? Thanks for the quik responses.

 

[RCC]

With the mods youre getting you dont need a rail cap,as a matter of fact no one needs a rail cap. Our trucks do not have pressure problems,they have volume problems. With your mods a fass would be perfect.

 

[Diesel Power]

that comment shows just how much R&D you do!! none at all obviously. the weakest link in the fuel system after the LP is the relief valve---cap the rail, then the problem is eliminated. in case you did not know pressure in the system is directly related to the volume in the system, the higher the constant pressure you hold the higher the volume---this is also the only way of monitoring fuel flow---with out spending thousands of dollars.

 

[Diesel Power]

I have a great understanding of what the common rails need to make power,that is why I out power you. Everytime someone asks about a mod , you want to sell them your rail pressure cap. Why do we need 30,000 plus psi of fuel pressure,Mr. Wizard. I guess its good business for you, I guess in a few months when everyone with your cap cracks injector bodies,you will have some miracle fix for that too. I am planning on going to the TS Performance race in june,I hope you will be there,I will give you lane choice,then I will show you what my research and development has done for me.

who said anything about 30,000psi---your stock cp3 can spike that high, anyway unless your running low 11's out of your daily driver w/ a single i suggest you dont challenge me or my truck, no im not going to show you any dyno results or time slips--so dont ask. but when me and those i am affiliated with start setting records :--) ----you will know why :-laf

 

[Diesel Power]

Diesel Power, CONSIDER YOURSELF AND WHOEVER YOU ARE AFFILIATED WITH CHALLENGED. I could care less about your dyno sheets,I want to race.

Oo. cool, you and me WILL race , i just dont want you to be upset at the outcome :{

 

[Russellmag]

Sounds like we need a race on PINKS!!!

 

[Mark1si]

I am a plumber and I have been doing it for 12 years. (I deal with water pressure and volume allday)I am wondering how pressure=volume? You cant get crap for volume out of a straw!! Shouldnt the feed lines be increased in size to increase volume?

I dont know but that is my question/thought

 

[Diesel Power]

pressure is the only way we can measure volume efficiantly, in our fuel system we have changed the cp3 and the rail cap and the fuel pump. the lines and the rail are the same givin that---the higher the pressure the higher the volume, in the same size system, or at least more consistent volume---and thats more important anyway. thanks

 

[driverno8]

It's funny, but in my dealing with Floor-it. They say I'm completely ok with the stage 2 cp3 I'm having done and no rail-cap.

 

[mattymac]

dont mean to hijack,



I dont want to pick sides but RC has a truck that in my minds is incredible to say the least and its been that way for a long time. The diffrence between RC/Relentless and DP/NADP is that RC/Relentless will tell you what they are doing and back it up with Ive talked to RC and Relentless, when I ask a question I get a direct answer, plus Ive seen the proof of their products.



DP, I think its great what you guys are doing to develop the CP3, I cant say it adds more HP but I believe it will maintain rail pressure longer,quicker and higher. With that said I am not a fan of high pressure with no means of bleeding off pressure spikes. I have been a victim of pressure related failure on my truck. I would have liked to see Tomeyguns dyno with the injectors alone. Dons injectors have been making that much and alot more power for a LONG TIME, its no suprise that tomey's truck did the same. I am not taking anything away from you guys, its just been done before long ago.

 

[Diesel Power]

It's funny, but in my dealing with Floor-it. They say I'm completely ok with the stage 2 cp3 I'm having done and no rail-cap.

the main thing you get from the rail cap is stable rail pressure, the stock one is only good for a certain psi after that it will bleed off and after so many cycles it will fail, and poor performance will result allong with other problems. you reccomendation from floor-it is fine, but john will tell you that the only way to get around the stock valve being weak is to stay away from pressure boxes, or cap the rail---untill the development of the opperable relieve valve is compleate. by add ing the rail cap you will increase power, they is no way around it,but you cant stack 5 boxes and expect every thing to be fine, the next weakest link is the injector body, which is something else in development.

 

[Diesel Power]

dont mean to hijack,



I dont want to pick sides but RC has a truck that in my minds is incredible to say the least and its been that way for a long time. The diffrence between RC/Relentless and DP/NADP is that RC/Relentless will tell you what they are doing and back it up with Ive talked to RC and Relentless, when I ask a question I get a direct answer, plus Ive seen the proof of their products.



DP, I think its great what you guys are doing to develop the CP3, I cant say it adds more HP but I believe it will maintain rail pressure longer,quicker and higher. With that said I am not a fan of high pressure with no means of bleeding off pressure spikes. I have been a victim of pressure related failure on my truck. I would have liked to see Tomeyguns dyno with the injectors alone. Dons injectors have been making that much and alot more power for a LONG TIME, its no suprise that tomey's truck did the same. I am not taking anything away from you guys, its just been done before long ago.

and you have a very good point,but you no as well as i do you cant tell everything you know, but the truth is that most of the hp gains are common sence, things that are in development just cant be talked about untill we are sure they work and we have a hold on that item, if you were to call me or barry you would get direct answers---just as you would from relentless.