Engine/Transmission (1994 - 1998) How can I make a 160hp pump crazy?

[AWray]

Is there any way or anybody that can make a 160hp pump make about 500 hp? If I can't make 500hp with that pump, what can I make?



If you don't want to tell me how I can move that much fuel, can you direct me to someone that can?



Aaron

 

[DEZLPWR]

Simple answer: Piers... Give him a call

 

[AWray]

I know I can buy a 215 or a "Stoopid" pump from Piers, but I'm not made of money. I am trying to find out if delivery valves alone will make much difference or if I need to get a professionally tweaked pump.

 

[JGheen]

I have heard that a #10 full forward with the 3K gsk will give any pump a kick in the a$$, but obvioulsy more so in a 215 pump like mine. I would like to know how to make a 160 pump really move as well, since my uncle is all over me to get more powa out of his 160 pumped '95. So what else can one do besides the minimal, yet noticable gains from the #10 and 3Kgsk?

 

[Howard Durand]

Piers tries to help people as well as sell components. I think he will give you good advice without a price tag attached.

 

[AWray]

That is exactly what I am trying to find out. The aFe, #10, 4", and 3GSK make the 95 auto a more enjoyable truck to drive. I am left wanting a he!! of a lot more.



What do I have to do to make a set of 370's and a B-1 type turbo fully useable on the street and track?

 

[JKouzez]

get a transmission to stand up to that much power, as far as power outta a 160 chris owner of relentless diesel www.relentlessdiesel.com will tell you i heard a couple of years ago he and a guy named cord were the first guys to get over 400 hP with a 160 and i know his truck is somewhere in the upper 500 range but i believe he has a 913 pump.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

I would recommend staying away from Chris and Cord both as they got me started with this crazyness just short of 3 years ago.



Jim

 

[1dslram]

And how many have YOU led down the path to Bombitis. And I thoutht water and alcohol were for drinking. Such is life.

Bruce

 

[JGheen]

So if one goes with a #10, 3GSK, and the air accesories to move that fuel, at what point do the delivery valves start to become a restriction? Were there different size DVs installed in some 160 pumps? DVs just seem to be the first restriction when trying to get more power out of it, such as a 370 inj. upgrade.

 

[AWray]

Mr. Gheen,



With the 10 plate, gsk, exhaust, and intake installed, the 160 pump is adequate from my experiences. The EGT's begin to get a little hot around 60 mph. I too want to know how many hp will push the capabilities of the 160 pump.



My biggest question is can Delivery Valves make a 160 pump perform like a 215 pump?

 

[JKouzez]

from what i understand and i may very possibly be wrong the 215 pump has different plungers and barrels and maybe even a differrent cam. just think of the 7100 as an engine when people talk about "pump tunning" they usually go in and install larger plungers and barrels (plungers being pistons and barrles being cylinders) so it would be the same concept as boring and stroking a gas engine, and of course installing a different cam. to answer your question awray i do not think delivery valves will make a 160 act like a 215

 

[1dslram]

The 160 pump will never flow what a 180 pump can flow, or what a 215 can. Yes the barrels, plungers and cam are different. About 450-500 is the highest HP that a 160 pump can support without major modifications. After that you will need a larger pump that will flow more fuel. You are right think of these pump as engines, each can support about 3 time stock so a 160 = 480 a 180 = 540 and a 215 = 635 these are just rough numbers that I have seen to be in the ballpark.

Bruce

 

[1dslram]

The 160 pump will never flow what a 180 pump can flow, or what a 215 can. Yes the barrels, plungers and cam are different. About 450-500 is the highest HP that a 160 pump can support without major modifications. After that you will need a larger pump that will flow more fuel. You are right think of these pump as engines, each can support about 3 time stock so a 160 = 480 a 180 = 540 and a 215 = 635 these are just rough numbers that I have seen to be in the ballpark.

Bruce

 

[1dslram]

The 160 pump will never flow what a 180 pump can flow, or what a 215 can. Yes the barrels, plungers and cam are different. About 450-500 is the highest HP that a 160 pump can support without major modifications. After that you will need a larger pump that will flow more fuel. You are right think of these pump as engines, each can support about 3 time stock so a 160 = 480 a 180 = 540 and a 215 = 635 these are just rough numbers that I have seen to be in the ballpark.

Bruce

 

[1dslram]

Sorry guys I don't know how it repeated 3 times as it never showed that it went through even once.

Bruce

 

[HoleshotHolset]

Bruce, is there an echo in here?



Scheid Diesel and Columbus Diesel Supply can hook you up with a P-7100 that will knock your socks off... this is just a very short list of shops that can wake your pump up. There might even be a good shop closer to home for you.



Most pump shops can work with you - they understand that not everyone needs a 14mm P-7100 that will flow 1500+ cc's... or a 17+ mm Sigma pump that flows insane amounts of fuel.



Matt

 

[Gifford]

How can I tell if I have a 160,180 or 215 pump? (I drive a 97 12v auto, California truck)

 

[JGheen]

How can I tell if I have a 160,180 or 215 pump? (I drive a 97 12v auto, California truck)

You most likely have a 160 since it is a California truck. But look on the side of the front timing gear case, right in front of the injection pump. There is a spec tag stamped on there and it has everything from the engine ID# to the pump HP rating to the injection timing set-point.

 

[Forrest Nearing]

Bruce, is there an echo in here?



Scheid Diesel and Columbus Diesel Supply can hook you up with a P-7100 that will knock your socks off... this is just a very short list of shops that can wake your pump up. There might even be a good shop closer to home for you.



Most pump shops can work with you - they understand that not everyone needs a 14mm P-7100 that will flow 1500+ cc's... or a 17+ mm Sigma pump that flows insane amounts of fuel.



Matt

my god, I'm affraid to ask what one of those billet pumps costs! LOL!