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What do they mean on TV when they say they have power reserves stored up? How do you store electricity? Bottle it or what? The news people keep saying that the power eserve in storage is low. I dont understand this.

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Chad,I think they're talking about the water level behind the hydropower dams. We're in a drought here in the NW,unless things change we won't have excess power to export come May-June,CA will be up that well known creek.
 
Actually, what they mean, is that generated + imported power within thier controlling region has a cushion - There is more available than is being used. When the power plants reach 100% and the incoming paid power is used 100%, then there's 0 reserves. If they continue to operate on that, an increased demand will do one of two things: trip breakers, causing massive and destructive overloads and outages, or voltage drops, which again, cause problems.

You can't overload the generation facility or cause main trunk lines to be overloaded, becuase the entire nation's power system is interconnected. They must maintain fully accurate 60 cycle sync with everyone else, and they must maintain the voltages, or suddenly, they'll have destructive transients across the grids. That happened a few years ago, during a huge storm, and it took the power down in about 15 if memory serves. It took several hours to restart the nation's power grids once that happened. I seem to recall that all of CA, Arizona, nevada, utah, OR, WA, ID, and some of Montana and colorado went dark almost precisely at the same time. Later, it was determined that somehow, due to some regulation error, parts of one power grid got out of 60 cycle sync with the rest, causing the interties to overload and then knocking down most of the west. They then had to bring it back up a single section at a time, syncing all the power generation stations one at a time to the (international, actually) grid.

So, when they say that their reserves are low, it means that thier ability to regulate the conditions of thier power delivery have reached an almost-failure point. If they failed, it is possible, perhaps even likely, that not only CA would have problems, but it could take down the power transmission temporarily in a large section of the country.

So this time the enviro wackos have not hurt just the people they live near, but it has the potential for doing damage to the rest of US as well.
 
There was a black out back in the 60's in New York. I was either a toddler, or not born. Not sure of the year it happened.
Things were much different back then, I'd hate to be in the city, or even near it if this happened now.
You can see what happens nowadays if a city's basketball team wins, if the lights went out it would be every man for himself.
I'm glad I'm a good ways from there, and have good neighbors. #ad

Eric

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Originally posted by Power Wagon:
Actually, what they mean, is that generated + imported power within thier controlling region has a cushion - There is more available than is being used. When the power plants reach 100% and the incoming paid power is used 100%, then there's 0 reserves.


Powerwagon... You hit it on the head! Yes, we are all connected (interties). . mine is yours and yours is mine. That 60 cycle sync. is a real critical thing, if you are out of sync. you not only create "useless" power you bog the whole system.

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