how many people like their 3-flows

[TCluff]

i am scheduled to have my industrial inj 3-flows in on thursday morning, just wondering what your comments are on power, fuel mileage, starting, idling, and wondering if i should get the 2-flows, ???????

 

[JVolpe]

I will be watching also, that is probably my next mod, do it with the studs.

 

[JStieger]

i am scheduled to have my industrial inj 3-flows in on thursday morning, just wondering what your comments are on power, fuel mileage, starting, idling, and wondering if i should get the 2-flows, ???????

I like mine! Oo. :-laf



They smoke when you want them too and don't smoke when you don't want them too.



Still haven't dynoed with them yet, but soon I'll be heading up to Meridian Motorsports (maybe next Friday) since I just got my fuel system issues fixed this past Monday.

 

[Jim Fulmer]

They will do good just as the EDM's do! Industrial has there act together on injectors as well as everything else.



Jim

 

[RWood]

What kind of horsepower increase can one expect?

 

[MMeier]

How much they getting for a set?

 

[TCluff]

How much they getting for a set?

they are 1300 and 77 per hour for labor

 

[JStieger]

I installed my SPA rail pressure gauge and these are the rail pressures I get with 3-flows + Edge Juice on 5x5 as cut-and-pasted from another thread:



... I get ~5,300 psi rail pressure at idle and about 15,000 psi rail pressure with the Juice on 5 WOT. So with my 3-flow injectors + Juice I just about maxed the CP3 before running out of power (13,000 psi or so according to other people's experiences on dynos). The max rail pressure I saw with the Juice was 24,000-25,000 psi at around to slightly above 2,000 rpm. (The 03-04 juice does fuel pressure/timing/duration with fuel pressure manipulation all in ~2,000 rpm)...

 

[TCluff]

I installed my SPA rail pressure gauge and these are the rail pressures I get with 3-flows + Edge Juice on 5x5 as cut-and-pasted from another thread:



... I get ~5,300 psi rail pressure at idle and about 15,000 psi rail pressure with the Juice on 5 WOT. So with my 3-flow injectors + Juice I just about maxed the CP3 before running out of power (13,000 psi or so according to other people's experiences on dynos). The max rail pressure I saw with the Juice was 24,000-25,000 psi at around to slightly above 2,000 rpm. (The 03-04 juice does fuel pressure/timing/duration with fuel pressure manipulation all in ~2,000 rpm)...

i pulled my rail down to 9000 but i am getting a new injection pump, and it will get modded too, hope to get my pressure back, even with the injectors, and tst...

 

[JStieger]

but i am getting a new injection pump

From II or other sources? Stock or modified? When I was last at II they said they were "experimenting"... !



That being said - you gotta get that dynoed after for sure - ~$100/hour at Meridian!

 

[lmills]

II is still dragging there feet on the pumps. I have been waiting for over a year for them back when I had my 03. Of course, they are extremely busy and loaded down with all the other products. So, I guess it is better that they take care of what they have first before taking on more work load

 

[TCluff]

From II or other sources? Stock or modified? When I was last at II they said they were "experimenting"... !



That being said - you gotta get that dynoed after for sure - ~$100/hour at Meridian!

its kind of funny, drove the truck, running great into the shop, and when it was all done, we pushed it out and i trailer towed it home, lost another rail relief, installed my spare and what do you know, it was bad too, just my luck... . , so now frustrated , i purchased a new cp3 to tear down and figure out, just to learn with, very expensive lesson, but in the end may be worth it to me and my buddies, the relief is about 4 days out, with the weekend, but i know have enough parts to modify and build my own fuel delivery, i am also looking for an adjustable, relief that will fit the rail, as i have access to just about any caterpillar parts, and have a fair amount of hydraulic expierience... , just tired of failing parts, or inadequate fuel, i have already learned a great deal in the cp3 and found quite a few little tweaks that in theory will help, not as hard as one may think, any hot rod engine builder can spot two things in about 10 seconds of just looking at the outside of this little pump, definitely not a big increase in fuel, but maybe enough to get that last few h. p. , only time will tell, and i have plenty of help from some master technicians, and machinists... . wish us luck, cause the only luck i have is bad luck.....

 

[JStieger]

its kind of funny, drove the truck, running great into the shop, and when it was all done, we pushed it out and i trailer towed it home, lost another rail relief, installed my spare and what do you know, it was bad too, just my luck... . , so now frustrated , i purchased a new cp3 to tear down and figure out, just to learn with,

Heck. . you're really having a good run of bad luck! Did you already have the trailer with you or rent or have someone bring yours back from Elko? Also, is the CP3 a one time disassembly and then it's no good? How did your old/stock injectors look after pulling them out?

 

[TCluff]

Heck. . you're really having a good run of bad luck! Did you already have the trailer with you or rent or have someone bring yours back from Elko? Also, is the CP3 a one time disassembly and then it's no good? How did your old/stock injectors look after pulling them out?

i took the trusty honda civic along, had to drive it home, then a buddy towed my trailer back to slc and we towed the truck home,,,the cp3 is a simple pump, easy to disassemble, only thing you might want to replace on a used pump is the o-rings and maybe even the input shaft seal, looks to be a fairly simple rebuild, one could perform at home... . i am trying to figure out ways to mod the new one, i have already done a few simple mods, but the inlet manifold is very restrictive and i am sending it into the machine shop for further examination, when and if this gets completed i will install it on my truck and try it out, if it works, then i will do more to my used one as i am not as scared to break it, one thing i would like to try is adding . 005 to . 010 of lift to the lobe on the drive shaft, but it will be tricky and i still have to measure piston stroke and i would have to get a custom undersized bearing made, but i am almost positive this mod would substantialy reduce component life expectancy by a great deal... . only time and trial and error will tell, oh yeah and money too, or more overtime...

 

[Matt400]

mpg?

How much mpg penalty is there with these?

 

[TCluff]

How much mpg penalty is there with these?

NOT SURE YET, BUT IT IS COMING SOON...