how to tell if it is a HO engine?

[paulsmith]

I am looking at buying a newer model 2000 to 2002 Dually, how do you tell if it is a HO engine?

 

[XcumminsX]

Hey paul, You have to look on the valve cover there should be a sticker there and it will say the hp rating on it.



Where do you live in chicago? Ive heard about your van before. . Havent you ran it at routee 66?



Nick

 

[Dean Upson]

The hp rating is on the valve cover. It must be cheaper to put it there instead of on a metal plate on the engine.



Dean

 

[CIverson]

If it's a 200-2002 shouldn't it have a 6spd if it's an HO? And I also thought the 6spd was only available with the HO.

 

[SOLER]

This is acutally pretty easy. Unlike the 3rd gen trucks, you could only get an HO with a six speed.



If it's a 2000, it doesn't have an HO. You could get the six speed, but the HO wasn't out yet.



If it's a 2002, and a six speed, it has the HO.



The tricky part is the 2001. There was a 2001, and a 2001. 5 (similar to the 2004 and 2004. 5) They made a few subtle changes. If it's a 2001, it won't have an HO. If it's a 2001. 5, and it has a six speed, it's got the HO. Now, how do you tell if it's a 2001, or a 2001. 5? I had a 2001. 5. There are a couple of ways to tell. Side moldings and brakes.



Side moldings (no moldings on Sport models ) In 2000, the side moldings went from the front tires all the way to the front of the rear tires. In 2001, they did away with the moldings on the bed. In 2001. 5, the little piece on the corner of the cab behind the doors was gone, and it was this way in 2002 as well.



Brakes. Simple. If it has 4 wheel discs, it's an 01. 5.



Hope this helps!



For what it's worth, I had a 2000 auto. It was a pig. I got my 2001. 5, and it was AWESOME And it only got better with the EZ and injectors.



SOLER

 

[johncameron]

I have a 2001 6er and it's a HO. I took delivery it July 2000! The HP on the valve cover says 245HP too.

 

[SOLER]

June or July is right about when the 01. 5 started showing up at dealers. I got mine in Sept, '00.



SOLER

 

[Vaughn MacKenzie]

My 2001 Ram 2500 which was built February 2000 (engine was built Jan. 2000) was an HO 6-speed, verified by engine ID tag.



Also there are a few 1999s running around with the 6-speed, Rob Hanson has one



Vaughn

 

[paulsmith]

Yes, I do run my van at Route 66, lots of fun!



So... .

If it has a 5 speed, It is NOT a HO engine. If it has a automatic, it is NOT a HO?



I am looking at a 2001 5 speed on Ebay, seller says it has the HO engine.



The trim is something I will look for closely! Thank you!



Paul

 

[SOLER]

Originally posted by paulsmith



So... .

If it has a 5 speed, It is NOT a HO engine. If it has a automatic, it is NOT a HO?



I am looking at a 2001 5 speed on Ebay, seller says it has the HO engine.



Paul

Well, I guess I COULD be wrong about when the 2001. 5 came out. But, if you have a 2001, and it has a hi output, it's a 2001. 5. But, it isn't going to say 2001. 5 ANYWHERE. And it won't be registered or insured as a 2001. 5, either. Check for the missing corner molding. If it's not there, or if you have rear disc brakes, you have a 2001. 5.



And, if it doesn't have a 6 speed, it doesn't have the HO. That changed with the 3rd gen trucks, but is a fact with the ones you're looking at.



SOLER

 

[RedRam1]

Soler,



You're wrong on the '01 H. O. business. Although my rig is an '01. 5, I know for a fact that the H. O. was available on the '01's. I test drove a couple at before ordering mine. I was pleasantly surprised when mine turned out to be an 01. 5.

Otherwise, I agree with your assessment on H. O. availability. i. e. no 5 spd or auto H. O. 's, and no 2000 H. O's. Not sure about the '01's, the ETC may have been available with the six speed. If so, I'm sure someone will let us know.

 

[PGoble]

I wouldn't use the valve cover sticker to verify the engine. They are too easy to change out, as are the side mouldings (I know because I added the rear moldings to my '01). Easiest and simpliest way is to look at the transmission. The HO only came in a six speed in '01-'02, and you couldn't get the six speed in an SO. So, if it has a five speed or an auto, it is definately an SO. If it has a six speed it is definately an HO.



Peter

 

[Bob4x4]

early 6 speeds were not Ho's

 

[SOLER]

Originally posted by Bob4x4

early 6 speeds were not Ho's

What he said



SOLER

 

[PGoble]

Originally posted by Bob4x4

early 6 speeds were not Ho's

I don't think so. All six speeds in the 2nd Gen truck were H. O. 's. If I am mistaken, I would like to see the truck that has an S. O. and a six speed. Seen a lot of trucks, never seen an S. O. with a six speed, and never seen an H. O. with a five speed (which is what he is looking at on ebay).



Peter

 

[RankRam]

In 99 there were approximatley 1,500 6-speed trucks made.



These were ETC's (standard output)

 

[Bob4x4]

PGoble,

Before you make any foolish statements do your research... ... ... . I work on these guys every day. The first 6 speeds had 1 1/4 input shafts,not the current 1 3/8. the clutches were different,the hp and torque were different... ..... on and on and on.





Bob

 

[RedRam1]

I know that without a doubt, there were 6 speed ETC's in '99 and '00. Still not sure about the '01, '01. 5, and '02's though. Were both the ETH and ETC available with the 6 speed from '01 on?

 

[Bob4x4]

01 and up 6speeds are HOs,very simple look at the data tag. It will show the advertised hp--245



Bob

 

[PGoble]

Originally posted by Bob4x4

PGoble,

Before you make any foolish statements do your research... ... ... .



Bob

Bob,



You let me worry about making any foolish statements... ..... I don't understand why there are comments referencing the '99 trucks. The truck in question is an '01 H. O. with a five speed. Is it an H. O. (Maybe Bob can do some research here)? No, it turns out it is not an H. O. ALL '01-'02 second generation trucks with an H. O. have a six speed. There may have been some '99/'00 trucks with six speeds, but how does that help with this truck? This truck has a five speed. There has never been ANY High Output (as the ad states) with a five speed, no matter what the year.



My response to "Early Six Speeds" that I responded to was in reference to the comments about "early '01 and later "01. 5 trucks", not to the '99-'00 comments. There was some inference that there was a difference between "early" '01 transmissions and later '01. 5 transmissions. There is no difference. If you have an '01-'02 H. O. then you must have a six speed. If you have a '01-'02 S. O. , then you have either a five speed, or an automatic. Thus, the truck in question, because it has a five speed, must be an S. O.



This thread was started by someone who is looking at a 2001 H. O. with a five speed on Ebay. He posted this thread to find out if the truck in question was in fact actually an H. O. It turns out that it is not. Some people on this board long to find someone to "roast" rather than offer help on the issue at hand. So Bob, before you make any foolish statements, do your research and make sure you understand the posts.