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Competition HT3B's twins 22 23 26 27 cm housings open and divided?

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HT3B's twins 18 22 23 26 27 cm housings open and divided?

I'm thinking of building a mild set of twins with a hybrid Hx 35 12cm and an HT3B or BHT3B.

I have found out that there is an 18cm undivided housing (Mostly avalible in Europe), 22cm undivided housing, 23cm divided (comon), 26cm divided (also comon), and 27cm divided and 27cm undivided (comon I think on Big Cam 400s)

Im going to keep the HX 35 12cm because I don't want to loose it's responsiveness and low end efficiancy. Most of my driving is well within the range of my HX 35 and no I don't really need twins - it is just for fun and for pesky gassers that come close to hurting my pride. I have more power than I can use up to about 2300 RPM or so and thats when it starts to choke. I would like to go up to about 3200 rpm and use the power up there where the torque is not so high that it tears up my drive line. It is just for short bursts because otherwise I'm going too fast.

About 700 ft lbs is the max my clutch will handle before it slips. I had one that held alot more before and I riped the hub out of it and I figure I'm lucky I didn't break my trans input shaft.

My Max Hp will be about 425 if I can hold 700 lb ft of torque up to 3200 rpm and most of the time it will be way less.

I plan to keep boost below 50 and more like 40+ and leave my timing at 15* for now because most of the time I will be below 1600 RPM and I don't want to O ring yet.

I think I want one of the smaller housings so that the big turbo will actually be doing something instead of just idling all the time.

I hoping to get a balance between them in the lower - mid range and have the waste gate almost open in the upper range.

This will, I'm guessing, act more like a truck with a small turbo for the bottom end and a big turbo for the top as opposed to the high HP guys that are looking for big boost and are more concerned about compounding.

The 22cm undivided is going to cost me almost $200 extra over a 23cm divided and I'm not sure it is worth it. I could smooth the corners off on the divider in the turbine housing to make it flow around it a little smoother.

I do have an external turbonetics waste gate I think I will use so I can have a low boost pressure most of the time and a higher one for spcial times.

Do you guys with twins run your EGT probe in the exhast manifold?

See my signature for engine Mods.

Comments on the divided and undivided housings and any other comments apreciated.
 
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Light to light or for lower end power the smaller housings (ie: 22 or 23cm) will be better. The problem is with the smaller housings is its harder to control the overall boost. You will need two wastegates or blow off valves to keep the overall boost under 50 or closer to 40. Unless you are towing I wouldn't go to twins with only 425hp. BTW the divided housing will be fine.
 
If your looking for less than 700lbs torque, you are not going to hit that hp. I have 304hp and 767 torque before I put in my 370's. That's a HX35 with the 14cm housing, a 6 plate and 215manual injectors. Twins would be overkill on that application... ...



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Josh
 
I have way over 700 lb ft of torque now. I'm talking about having that much at 3200 rpm.

700 trq. X 3200 rpm = 426 HP
 
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Well, I ended up finding a BHT3B with a 23cm exhaust housing new for $425. It is on the way. Aparently the 23cm housing is not common for them. 26 is common and cheaper. Hopefully this will be the right size so I don't have to go back and change housings.
 
Either that or a Garet. I don't remeber now and it is too heavy to pull out of the box right now. It has a Holset 23cm housing on it. What does Piers do to it anyway?. I think I will be well within it's operating range anyway.
 
alakazam..... and puuff you have a faster spooling HT3B... . in others words i dont know but would like to so let us know if you do. the question is why $550 for HT3B and $1200 for HX40... ... . yea i know the small the turbo the more expensive but why double?
 
i think i have settled on a used stock ht3b w/ 26 and rebuilding it i will be in $250 1/2 off. i am going to mod my hx35 myself to a hybrid hx35/40 16.
 
I wanted to try the 12 housing 35 and 26 housing 3B on my 12v. My goal was not big power but nice response and less smoke.



End result. 454hp 1059 tq with nearly half of the fuel I was using to get 430hp. I see 58 psi max opening the gate at 20psi. EGT's are a bit high at a max of 1580. Best part for me is under boost it is clean - no smoke. Response is now. If I don't open the wastegate, I will blow by my 60 PSI guage in a hurry.



I like it but like I said, it is not a big turbo set-up. It is a nice daily driver though.
 
Instead of using a 12 housing, i might suggest using a wastegasted 14 housing. Or use your 12 and add and external wastegate. This will drop your egts and deliver the exhaust to the bigger turbo better (plus reducing the back pressure that is staying in the cylinder. I'm going to try to run a sinlge bht3b with a wastegate to control boost. Found a sweet housing that airworks put out.
 
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