Hy-drogen

[yogibear]

Don't know if this is in the right place or not, but has anyone ever checked this out? http://www.savefuel.ca/

 

[JPereira]

I went to the site and read up on it. It sounds to good to be true? I hope someone on here has used this so we can get some feedback. I would give this a try if we have any users that can vouch for it. A 1-3 mpg gain would more than offset cost of kit if it is true??



Jeff

 

[RonA]

Being an older person, I still remember the junior high science class experiment where you separate oxygen and hydrogen from water with a battery. It is a slow process and when compared to how much air an engine uses, lets just say it would be insignificant. It is just another fuel mileage scam. I would probably be just as effective to put potted plants under the hood to increase the oxygen level.

 

[SLouke]

I am a chemical engineer. I know this seems really good, especially in times of high fuel prices, but there is a catch. To split water into its components (oxygen and hydrogen) requires energy. You know this because we've all seen the school experiment where you hook up a battery to the electrodes in the test tube of water and the H2 and O2 are formed at the cathode and anode when the current is turned on.

So, here's the catch: When you run this type of device in your engine, you use some electrical energy to split the water, then you get the energy back in the combustion chamber when the hydrogen reacts with oxygen and creates the water again. There is no net gain.

But wait, it gets worse. The electrical power is not generated at 100% efficiency by the engine. There is some loss in the coils and from resistance in the wiring. And, the combustion process is not 100% efficient, either, not to mention the mechanical linkages to the generator, etc. So in the end you are loosing energy, not gaining in energy (mileage). In fact, it will cost you energy to run this type of device in your engine.

These types of devices are another variation on the old "perpetual motion machine" that were popular scams in the 19th century.

 

[jkidd]

just put solar panel on the top of your cab to reduce the use of the alternator.

wait that will make more wind resistance :-laf



I wish it would work. the people running these systems are drawing 20+ amps. there are lots of conspiracy theories to explain why it is not popular/ available just like cold fusion. Who knows... the MAN might be out to get us and blinding us from a viable fuel source.



If you want to test it there are lots of models look on the internet for "brown's gas" for templates for O2/H2 production.



better gas mpg = proper inflation, clean air filter/ slow starts, reasonable speeds (approx 60) and less weight to carry around.



my best is 20. 5mpg with a 2001 4. 10 gears Avg 14-18 with mixed driving/towing.



Still get better gas mpg than my wifes v6 Tacoma :-laf . it is in how you drive.