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I propose a new political party

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*lightbulb appears over Rich's head* (since I'm not in California, it is illuminated)

Let's face it. Love it or hate it, for all intents and purposes there's really only 2 political parties. Republicans and Democrats.

For the most part, the GOP is conservative and the Democratic Party is kinda liberal. That's all fine and good, but either one can be intrusive into our lives, due to individual variance in the politicians themselves, and their collective product, which is... ... ugh..... legislation.

At the core of each party is preservation of the party's existence and defeat of the other party's agenda. We the People don't fit into the equation nearly as much as we're supposed to.





That being said: I propose the formation of a political party that might actually appeal to enough real people to smack both of the major parties down to reality.



For lack of a better title/name:

THE SIMPLETON PARTY!

not because we're unintelligent, but because our platform would be... . SIMPLICITY!



Any proposed legislation introduced by a SIMPLETONIAN would be limited to 1 standard-sized typewritten page. That way, any mayor, governor, or president that ever signs such a bill into law would have the entire text right there in front of him/her, rather than a stack of legaleze (and hidden pork/complexity), and only a summary sheet for his/her signature.



Since the SIMPLETONS would rather not have a net increase in the number of ways that an individual can be violating hidden laws,(this would countermand the very premise and concept of SIMPLICITY) the introduction of a new law would also be accompanied by the proposal to strike at least one existing, large, involved, porky, complex law from the books entirely. Preferably 2!



This would, I suspect, TRULY have a net effect, if nothing else, of reducing government paperwork. (the enviro's might like that) Isn't there a "Paperwork Reduction Act of 19??" on the books? The spirit (and probably the letter) of that law is violated every minute of every day that our government operates, under current conditions. As a defense for some of the inevitable disputes, I'd propose that that presumably large, unwieldly law be saved for last, and then replaced by a simple concise one-page version... .



Any takers?
 
Sign me up, I'm a pretty "simple guy". I have talked about this sort of thing for a long time. I want to propose the first bill. Move election day to April 16th as my signature says. If all voters knew what their total tax at the Federal, state and local levels were plus all of the taxes on fuel, food, etc... , your new party would have a good chance of catching on.
 
howdy bh

Originally posted by Briar Hopper

Rich M for Simpleton President ! :D Like the idea of such a party, but it'd be a hard sell in the "blue" areas of this country...



(personally, I think most of those people would like the premise, as well. our "gun control" stance would be mandatory armament or at least bodyguardment of all of the grandmothers, aunts, and waddling preggies)... ... suspect that might be the scratch that starts the dig, finding everybody's inner sense of honor?



we'd need a huge, sudden onslaught of LOTSA simpleton running for everything... hmmmmmm a few thousand TDR people and about double that over at Ford-Diesel.com... . saturation bombing, political style... . (yet another real simple approach :eek: )
 
You have my vote.

Strangely I've been called a simpleton by many people for a long time, so I must be one. :D

I'd love to parlay (sp?) my way of life into government. My motto for the last few years has been "economy of motion" and I've found that you could even use this in communication to your wife!!

If she asks you to do something she knows you really do not want to do, just stare at her (this is pretty economical) for a bit, and she'll get the idea.

I've been testing the waters at work with the "economy of motion" creedo, it's been met with mixed results. :D

Eric;)
 
It's here!

Hey, it already exists. http://www.lp.org/



(personally, I think most of those people would like the premise, as well. our "gun control" stance would be mandatory armament or at least bodyguardment of all of the grandmothers, aunts, and waddling preggies)... ... suspect that might be the scratch that starts the dig, finding everybody's inner sense of honor?



How about the repeal of all gun control laws: 1. They don't work. 2. See the 2nd amendment.



They also campainged on the elimation of the IRS. Can you tell me that everyone here wants to keep these guys (IRS auditors) around?



They advocate a return to a CONSTITUTIONALLY LIMITED GOVERNMENT. Something that the current crop of politions seems not to care about.



Michael
 
maybe they chose the wrong name?

If they could keep any new laws down to one page, and eliminate/replace (recycle!!) the big, honkin' laws we have now, then they truly are already there. If not, then they may be doomed to remain one of the seemingly endless number of forgotten third parties... .
 
parallel thread--

I started this thread over at www.ford-diesel.com as well, over in their "other" forum (known locally as the "Bilge")



the discussion has given me the chance to be eloquent on both sites, but i'm not gonna "transplant" all the posts back and forth. .

that'd be strenuous, and I'm into simple
 
Re: maybe they chose the wrong name?

Originally posted by rich m

If they could keep any new laws down to one page, and eliminate/replace (recycle!!) the big, honkin' laws we have now, then they truly are already there. If not, then they may be doomed to remain one of the seemingly endless number of forgotten third parties... .



There the only ones who have campaigned on removing laws from the books. Also cutting spending when it comes to talk of the budget as opposed to the Dem's talking about raising taxes and the Rep's talking about tax cuts. If YOUR budget is unbalanced, you would have to either 1) increase your income, or 2) cut spending. The current politions can't seem to grasp this.



Michael
 
maybe they've got a marketing problem, then.

If they've been consistently growing, in terms of voter registry and actual vote count on election day, there may be a chance to shake up the BIG 2... here comes a string of "ifs"



Keeping in mind that the liberals probably don't like libertarian views, let's just point this comment toward the Republican party... . (any libertarian view that would rattle the democrats would also fall into the same kind of discussion anyway)



If a Libertarian candidate (at any level, really) starts looking too attractive to the (we) conservatives, that would nudge the Republicans in a more conservative direction, in order to recapture the numbers and win the election.



As I see it, currently, (stereotyping to keep from getting finger cramps on the keyboard)

we have:

Democrat party---they like big gov't--want it bigger, still. market themselves that way, but 'for your own good, little guy, because I'm creating big programs to watch out for your wellbeing'

Republican party---government's too big, now, but might not be able to shrink it... . ' little guy, if you aren't under a program, we won't make one for you... watch out for your own well-being, since you know it best, anyway'

Libertarian... .gov't too big... . shrink it..... de-tax the populace, and allow the 'little guy' to watch his own wellbeing, even if under a program now and un-covered by the shrink, and the resulting longterm prosperity will allow the little guys kids and grandkids to be 'medium guy' or even 'big guy' sometime in the future.





Now... . back to the BIG 2 scenario... For the most part, the Libertarians mayn't be 3rd of a BIG 3 any time soon. If they can chase the Republicans in a more "shrink the gov't" direction, while not abandoning external defense, then the goal is still met, just not by a specific member of that party... I would still count that as a victory.
 
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