I want a rottweiler, not a poodle

[SmokinJoe]

http://www.machinedesign.com/conten...tml&articleID=40241&subcolumnID=401&columnID=



Here is a quote from the article:



When I have to choose between the syrupy Grand Marquis and the Dodge, I probably will cast my lot with the raucous Ram. Somehow the clatter of the diesel is my idea of what life ought to be as I motor down the highway. It makes even a short drive an event to savor.



I've never driven GM's quiet diesel, but I've stood next to one while it was running, and it is almost as quiet as a gasoline engine. That means it doesn't deliver the visceral element I like in diesels. When it comes to pickup trucks, it is possible to make them too civilized. When I buy my next one, I want it to be a rottweiler, not a poodle.

 

[Leon R]

Don't you just love that guy

 

[SmokinJoe]

Originally posted by Leon R

Don't you just love that guy

Did you see some of the notes to the editors that followed that...

 

[Briar Hopper]

A poodle truck... . heehee... . ROFLMAO

 

[jsimpson]

My brother's new Duramax is not as loud as my Dodge, or as loud as my best friend's Powerstroke, but is considerably louder than a gasser, and for that matter, considerably louder than the 2001 Duramaxes we test-drove. It is extremely well-appointed (Chevy has NOT been steadily removing standard equipment as has Dodge), very capable and a an absolute blast to drive. My 55 pound standard poodles would love to have a ride in it instead of my Dodge, but so far my brother has not made them an offer!

 

[Leon R]

Most dogs will ride in anything. At least mine will

 

[Mr. Brewski]

Someone say they want a Rott?

Free to a good home NOT! Here's "Fritz" guarding his favorite truck... (His doghouse while we're camping!)

 

[roadranger]

Originally posted by jsimpson

It is extremely well-appointed (Chevy has NOT been steadily removing standard equipment as has Dodge)

Yes, but they COST $10,000 more than the Dodge...

 

[SmokinJoe]

Originally posted by Briar Hopper

A poodle truck... . heehee... . ROFLMAO

Much of my truck is stock, but the looks we get when we pull up to a Chevy. Man that has to be the way a little Pekinese looks at a 110 lb Rottweiler...



When I get a 4" exhaust and K&N Cold air intake it should sound a little more intimidating.

 

[jsimpson]

The looks you get? Every truck owner who pulls up next to the Duramax gives it admiriung looks. On the other hand, when trucks pull up to my RAM, they don't look at all, and that's just fine with me!

As for price, he paid $39,000 for a 2500HD 4x4 Duramax Allison, full crew cab, with every option, including leather (front and back), driver and passenger 8-way power seats, limited slip, Onstar, heated seats, tow package, camper package, forged polished aluminum wheels, LT package. How much would a RAM with the same equipment cost?

 

[Dr.Kayak]

When I bought my 2001 the DuraMax had just came out. GM was not offering any discounts. Dodge was offering $4,000 off MSRP and 0. 9% financing. So, even if the Dodge and DuraMax were both stickered at $39k the Dodge would still be aprox. $10k less (considering interest $$ saved). That was too much of a difference for me.



Now, A year later, with the economy is the dump, The Duramax is being discounted as well. If I were to buy today I migh just get one.

 

[LarryB]

Originally posted by jsimpson

The looks you get? Every truck owner who pulls up next to the Duramax gives it admiriung looks.

Well, maybe not everyone. I see a guy with "I gave GM $45k for a car" written all over his face. Me? I bought a Rabbit PU for $2,000 Put the balance of $43k into CDs and I'm still getting $3,870/yr income from it. After his truck is 10 yrs old, I'll have $81,700 and he'll have doody. Not to mention my insurance is only $250/yr and I get 45mpg. Woooh, the money I,m makin makes me dizzy. And I don't even have to work for it.



Of course, I don't impress anyone either. To each their own.



Larry

 

[Doubleclutch]

Quiet is nice. Cars are nice. Onstar electronic leashes are... an acquired taste. I just want my truck to sound like a diesel, not a tea kettle. Sorry Mr. Simpson, I sure don't think they're all that much to look at, and don't bother. Like the guy on TV said, "Intimidate the guy in the next lane". Poodles don't.

 

[Briar Hopper]

Well said, LarryB and DoubleClutch. If I even look over at all, it's to see the chagrined expression on the face of the rooty-tooty-frooty behind the wheel, as I hammer past him.

I've had far more people crowded around my truck, in public, and at diesel events, than around a Duramix two doors down.

Bragging? Maybe so. But I know what I have, and it doesn't have a plastic bed on it !

 

[QRTRHRS]

I have only crossed paths with a Dmax twice so far that I was aware of. First time, I pulled in next to one as the owner was coming out of the store. I looked at him before I spoke, you know, read the body language, etc. He looked away so I didn't bother. Next time was when I passed someone then was coming up on a Dmax. Now this is not bragging about blowing him off as in out performing him okay, but he say me coming and I could see him goose it. Problem for him was I was doing about 80 to his ~60 so he didn't have a chance. He just backed out of it.



My Ram, it's noisy, it stinks, it smokes if I make it and it takes up more than one parking space. And, I love it!

 

[jsimpson]

Aint' it amazing how brand loyalty shows itself on all three forums in pretty much the same way? Just change the brand names when you switch forums, and get petty much the same comments!. I must be a member of an awfully small fraternity that appreciates all brands and buys what we need at the time, regardless of brand.

By the way, we ordered the truck in Dec 2000, got it discounted all the way to 39,000 and got zero percent interest when we took delivery. I'm sure some bombed Cummins will blow away from us sooner or later, but if he needs to prove his manhood that badly, MOPAR to him!

 

[MABurns]

JSimpson,

Your not alone. There are a lot of people who exercise their rights in their pursuit for happiness. I am not a brand loyal buyer either, Ive owned 2 Fords, 2 Dodges (CTD equipped of course) and I just bought a Chevy HD with the D/A combo. They are all good trucks. I got a 2500 HD Crew Cab 4x4 with every option available for under 39,000 and 2. 9% financing. My wife, kids and dogs don't care either. They finally all fit in it (comfortably).