Industrail 5.9 exhuast manifold pics& ??

[JSpecht]

I saw a ford truck a mechanics town pull last night and it had a industrial 5. 9 in it and the exhaust manifold had the turbo below the manifold and in the middle (the best I could see dark out 1:00 am) does any body know any thing about them like what they were in so I could look for one,I think it will help out some if the down pipe clearance isuses I'm having with mine in a ford and does any one have a pic of one??

 

[Scrappy]

exhaust manifold

why not try a 3rd gen ATS manifold, it mounts the turbo down like you are looking for. The outlet is set back just a little(under exhaust port #4).

 

[bgilbert]

Very good color pic of the exhaust manifold you are talking about in the latest issue of TDR magazine. Topic of the history of Dodge/Cummins. Shows one of the first test mules for putting the Cummins in a 85 Dodge.

 

[Animal]

My F-650 has that manifold, but it also moves the turbo back like the CRD does like Scrappy said. I had to go to the ATS manifold to move the turbo forward when installing my HX40 w/E-brake and 4" down pipe. If you still think it will work I'll get you the family number off the engine so you can order the manifold from Cummins, I believe the price is $256 for the manifold. I'll post a picture when I get home or I'll e-mail it to you.

 

[towner]

I have an industrial manifold I bought off of ebay while doing my cummins conversion in my apache but didn't use it. . the turbo is between #4 and #5 cyl..... I bought it for $75 if you wnt it let me know... .

 

[PKirby]

I am using this type manifold for my conversion. The downside is 4 of the exhaust ports go to one port on the turbo.

 

[JSpecht]

I will dig out the TDR issue you are talking about and look and see moving the turbo back will hurt the clearance issue I have allready.

 

[MartyAdams]

I installed the 5. 9 in a ford Van and needed the Freightliner manifold that moved the turbo back and under in place of the oil cooler. I had thought the later generation manifold might fit however I recieved excellent help from this forum on what to do and how to set it up. Check out my thread by searching E250. My manifold appeared on the outside to have 4 ports into 1 but when you turned it over and actually traced the paths it was clearly split 3 and 3.



Marty A

 

[towner]

pic

found my camera

 

[MartyAdams]

That the one I put in my van. If you flip it over you can trace the ports to see that it is not 4 to 1 but 3 to 1 on each side. When you install this manifold using the original turbo the waste gate will hit the block and the oil return tube will need to be either modified or purchased. I offset the air actuator on my waste gate with a piece of 1/4" plate steel and carefully bent the oil return tube. I will try to post a picture.



Marty A

 

[nickleinonen]

found my camera

looks like a much cruder version of a 3rd gen manifold...

 

[MartyAdams]

Found the pics. Things are not nice and clean as I only clean when I need to fix. So far no fixes in the last 12k.



Marty

 

[JSpecht]

The manifold you guys have pictured will not work on mine the heater box there Thanks any ways. The one in the TDR mag is the one like I saw in the ford at the pull . Does any body know what aplication the were used on or have one for sale???

 

[Greenleaf]

Yes. The manifold you need is used on the school us engines. PM me for details. I don't have any that I'm not using, however they are out there.



There is a pic of one of the engines in my readers rig pics under the title of other projects. I don't think you'll see much of the manifold though. It's mounted upside down to position the turbo up top.



GL

 

[Forrest Nearing]

if anyone needs one of those, I've got one in the garage I'll sell cheap.



Forrest

 

[bgilbert]

I think thats the one from the TDR picture that Scott-Greenleaf has in his RR's album on that school bus. Looks to put the turbo smack dab center. If Forrest doesn't have that one, I'm sure Scott can hook you up with cpl, serial number, and whatever else Cummins needs to order one for you.

 

[MMeier]

IIRC, my buddys former Coachman pusher MH had the manifold that put the turbo right in the middle of everything. It was a 94 Santara model with the 5. 9 CTD, Freightshaker chassis.

 

[DPinkston]

if anyone needs one of those, I've got one in the garage I'll sell cheap.



Forrest

You have a PM.

Danny

 

[bgilbert]

I was looking at my 89's exhaust manifold and it sure looks like the turbo sits right in the middle of the manifold. ??? Looks just like the one pictured in the TDR magazine. . Have you looked at a 1st gen exhaust manifold? Edit: took another look at the TDR issue, and the pictured exhaust manifold is different than a first gen manifold. Both place the turbo in center, but the one in the magazine puts the turbo down lower than a 1st gen. You'd need the turbo oil drain tube as well I bet.

 

[Greenleaf]

That particular manifold has an outlet flange that is 90° to the manifold's mounting flange. Your right, the turbo sets a tad lower, or higher depending how it's mounted onto the head.



GL