Injector cleaning

[Xgunfighter]

Went to have normal warrantee work done on my truck today and was told that Dodge now recommends that the injectors be cleaned/flushed at 30000 miles. Anyone else had this told to them? any comments? I thought that if the injectors went bad it would be covered under the warrantee to 100K miles. I was told that that was if you had the reccommended services done.



Have the upgraded filter per dodge and an additional water seperator and 2 micron filter mounted to frame. Don't think I will get much dirt in injectors, but am worried about warrantee problems in the future.

 

[EricBu12]

That cleaning schedule is probably good as a preventative. . the Diesel injectors which are like a car injector, In design, get dirty faster with the dirty Diesel. . I use a Fuel additive that cleans as I drive so that should prevent a lot of problems.

Don't think the extra filters will affect warranty as it is helping the filtration. . what has to be watched is the flow of the fuel. If the injector pump is starved, then they will blame the extra filters. and deny warranty

 

[HBarlow]

The dealer service department injector cleaning service will be most effective for cleaning out your wallet or bank account.

Cummins doesn't recommend such a service and the Dodge owner's manual doesn't either.

The injectors in my '08 have 73k miles on them. The truck starts, idles, and runs at full power-full load or light "throttle" light load better than the day I bought it. I don't use any injector cleaner and sure as heck would not let a dealer tech "clean" them.

My '06 HPCR ran like a top with 230k miles the day I sold it.

The Bosch 275 injectors in my '01 have about 340k miles on them.

 

[jelag]

We've sold several trucks over the years with 500K miles on them and nothing done to them. . In the HD fuels class I took years ago, we were taught that fuel contamination was the worst thing for them... . We have a 10 micro and a 2 micron filter on the frame...

The dealer has never said a thing about the filters... Its like the set up we have on our Cat engines...

Harvey is sometimes abrupt in what he says... but his comment about their cleaning out your wallet is my thought as well...

We've got service manuals for our trucks... its not mentioned there that I can remember. .

 

[TCDiesel]

How and the heck do You clean injectors that are subject to 20k plus?... The 100s of 5. 9 and a few 6. 7 that I have R/R are destroyed or have wear beyond spec,But are 100% clean. I suppose they will be telling owners next to add Listerine to every tank to clean the CP3 and keep the ERG form plugging... ... ..... !!!!!

 

[LRutigliano]

That dealer is just trying to increase his profits at your expense.



I use Power Service Diesel Kleen with every fill up b/c I am concerned about ULSD fuel not lubricating my injection system adequately. It also provides a Cetane boost and cleans the injectors. Its $16-17 at Walmart for a gallon (I think) jug. The large container treats approx 250 gal of fuel.

 

[KLauber]

TDR would have saved me...

The dealer service department injector cleaning service will be most effective for cleaning out your wallet or bank account.



Cummins doesn't recommend such a service and the Dodge owner's manual doesn't either.



The injectors in my '08 have 73k miles on them. The truck starts, idles, and runs at full power-full load or light "throttle" light load better than the day I bought it. I don't use any injector cleaner and sure as heck would not let a dealer tech "clean" them.



My '06 HPCR ran like a top with 230k miles the day I sold it.



The Bosch 275 injectors in my '01 have about 340k miles on them.

I fell victim to that scam right before I joined the club! Save your money!



Ken

 

[jleons]

Hello

I know this is a old tread, but, use Alamagated fuel additive. You will not require any further cleaning. A great product

JL

 

[sag2]

Chrysler is having the dealers (at least local) send out the injectors for testing when they suspect fuel problems. It is really reasonable at $30 each, and that includes cleaning the nozzle if required. No more guessing if the injector is contaminated/damaged/defective. The whole set gets tested and cleaned for less than the price of one. Pretty good insurance, especially for 6. 7 injectors that are $1,700 each. Don't want to be guessing at that price, no matter who is paying.

 

[HBarlow]

Is it possible to simply remove and inspect an injector for contamination before sending it out for testing?

Does the outside testing/cleaning service report back evidence of contamination or simply test them for mechanical operation?

 

[TCDiesel]

Send to WHO?..... Don't believe this,,,it's just another form of deception at corporate level,We have have about 5 sets of cores bank here anyone is welcome to check them out,they are all bad. I will mix 2 new ones in them, anyone one from CHRYSLER who can pick the 2 new ones on the 1st try would= to a hurricane in MN. Cleaning WILL NEVER repair a bad injector in CR. its a remote possibility it will add any time of life span.

Sag2. this post is direct at Chrysler, YOU are respect by me and members here at the DTR and through out the net forums.

 

[sag2]

Send to WHO?..... Don't believe this,,,it's just another form of deception at corporate level,We have have about 5 sets of cores bank here anyone is welcome to check them out,they are all bad. I will mix 2 new ones in them, anyone one from CHRYSLER who can pick the 2 new ones on the 1st try would= to a hurricane in MN. Cleaning WILL NEVER repair a bad injector in CR. its a remote possibility it will add any time of life span.

Sag2. this post is direct at Chrysler, YOU are respect by me and members here at the DTR and through out the net forums.

That is the point. In the engine doing the return test it is very difficult for the technician to identify the bad injector(s), especially when there is more than one. The beauty of sending them out for testing to a Bosch facility is it takes the guesswork out of it. You can't clean a bad injector, but you can clean a dirty one.

And from the results I have seen, send me six of your cores, and mix in one or two bad ones and I'm confidant they will find the bad ones on the test bench. I'm sure they mess up once in a while, but from what I have seen, I trust their results far more than the tests I can run on the truck.

 

[TCDiesel]

If I was a tech for some dealer ship I would welcome this,Chrysler techs are part changers when it come to Warranty Chrysler dictates the required procedure is. This new arrangement will be even more in favor or Chrysler. Example the customer will have no idea what parts harvesting went on once removed form the owners engine. If Chrysler was going to resolve this they would replace NEW,but this would cost $$$$. were is Chrysler getting parts for the Bosch injectors?. Bosch position is limited supply of internal parts. Cummins has the resources necessary to rebuild injectors, Bosch injectors are reman under Cummins the Box that all Bosch injectors reman by Cummins are box and label Cummins. Cummins does NOT outsource their Bosch Injector, My guess is they have the Skills and resources to manufacture internal parts,Why is Chrysler NOT using Cummins remans? They are the power plant builder and out side of Bosch are the most qualified,How many New parts from Cummins has the Mopar badge stamped right over cummins,Out side of Cummins all Bosch authorized Dealers are subject to Bosch supply,I have spoke to the most respected Bosch dealers and get the same reply. Back order internal Parts.

 

[F-15I Ra'am]

Chrysler is having the dealers (at least local) send out the injectors for testing when they suspect fuel problems. It is really reasonable at $30 each, and that includes cleaning the nozzle if required. No more guessing if the injector is contaminated/damaged/defective. The whole set gets tested and cleaned for less than the price of one. Pretty good insurance, especially for 6. 7 injectors that are $1,700 each. Don't want to be guessing at that price, no matter who is paying.

So Sag are you saying it only costs $180 {6x$30} to pull the injectors, have them sent out checked, cleaned and then reinstalled?

 

[odinjunior]

Chrysler is having the dealers (at least local) send out the injectors for testing when they suspect fuel problems. It is really reasonable at $30 each, and that includes cleaning the nozzle if required. No more guessing if the injector is contaminated/damaged/defective. The whole set gets tested and cleaned for less than the price of one. Pretty good insurance, especially for 6. 7 injectors that are $1,700 each. Don't want to be guessing at that price, no matter who is paying.

$1700 each? If that's not a typo an extended warranty looks better and better. .

 

[sag2]

OK, your reading way too much into this. If they test bad they get replaced with genuine Mopar new or reman parts. No reman yet for 6. 7 so they all get new, and yes the warranty price is $1,700 each.

Price is for testing only, does not include freight or R&R. On a 6. 7 especially, it is a great way to go.