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Looks like I will be replacing the injectors on a 2003 Dodge, with 155,000 miles. Problem is: will not cold start, and the mechanic tested the injectors which showed the injectors maximum return rate at 6 oz per minute.
Question is should I use reman or new injectors, and brand of injectors, also does anyone have a recommendation on who to buy them from?

Thanks for your help,
from beautiful Homer, Alaska
 
New from TC Diesel.
Fair price and honest service. You can't put a price on knowing what you are getting. Also a great time to add better filtration.
That said, I have been happy with my Bosch Motorsports 50hp inj. I had the same problems as you three years ago and elected to go back with slightly bigger injectors. They are a very good match with my Smarty Jr.
 
Bosch genuine remans are also good. Not generic reman injectors. I have used a couple sets of genuine Bosch remans from BD and they work great, save some money.
 
AKDru, I see you are from Alaska. I imagine you get to pay a hefty price to get your parts. It's bad enough to buy parts here. Getting 50 hp injectors will make you smile after they are installed. Adding good filtration is a must too.
 
I have been told by several shops that if you order Bosch direct replacements they may be new and they may be remans, but Bosch only has 1 part number for the CR injectors... there are ways to get New New from Bosch, but they aren't "pickup" injectors. Nothing wrong with that, just some info.

I have BBi's and they are great, but unless you want a decent bump in power I wouldn't go that way. Even their smallest injector is about a 90hp injector.

Something with a 30-50hp nozzle is a good idea thou.
 
Thanks to everyone who replied.
Just put an Air Dog filter on the truck, so filtration is good.
CToney, you are correct, shipping can be expensive, or they won't ship to Alaska, which can be very frustrating, but we love it here :)
 
I have been told by several shops that if you order Bosch direct replacements they may be new and they may be remans, but Bosch only has 1 part number for the CR injectors...

I think somebody is confused or just uninformed. There are 2 disitnct part numbers for 5.9 injectors, reman and new. How many numbers the 6.7's have I do not know.

Just put an Air Dog filter on the truck, so filtration is good.

AD with less than adequate filters is still less than adequate filtration. Unless you put the right filters on it is no better, sometimes worse, than stock. Need to know your filters and ratings.
 
I think somebody is confused or just uninformed. There are 2 disitnct part numbers for 5.9 injectors, reman and new. How many numbers the 6.7's have I do not know.

I don't think either. My understanding is that one supersedes to the other when ordered. This is just something that has happened in the last year.

They could be mistaken, but it more than one shop and supplier.

Thanks to everyone who replied.
Just put an Air Dog filter on the truck, so filtration is good.

I will 2nd what Cerberus said. It's not uncommon to find an AD with worse filtration than stock, and then even the best filters thst fit the AD do not meet the pump flow capacity.
 
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New PERIOD....I resently put a set of BB1's in my truck it has never been quieter or ran smoother I have 20K on them very happy I must say.
 
I don't think either. My understanding is that one supersedes to the other when ordered. This is just something that has happened in the last year.

I wonder if demand has so far outstripped supply they are back to what they were doing 5 or 6 years ago, one number that was a reman # and the actual injectors a mix of new and reman. That might be true as have now seen 2 cases of injectors with a supposedly new part # have failures just like the remans do. Of course, there is no telling when buying from random sources what actually gets packaged in a box but when the number says new and the price is around $350 and several fail shortly after install it does beg the question.

Looks like BBI might be one of the few sources or real new injectors.


On the filters, did you ever track down the spces on the AD FF100-2 filter? I see you had found them on the FF100-3 and that was always advertised as 2 um filter when it was actually a 5 um absolute.
 
I wonder if demand has so far outstripped supply they are back to what they were doing 5 or 6 years ago, one number that was a reman # and the actual injectors a mix of new and reman. That might be true as have now seen 2 cases of injectors with a supposedly new part # have failures just like the remans do. Of course, there is no telling when buying from random sources what actually gets packaged in a box but when the number says new and the price is around $350 and several fail shortly after install it does beg the question.

Looks like BBI might be one of the few sources or real new injectors.


On the filters, did you ever track down the spces on the AD FF100-2 filter? I see you had found them on the FF100-3 and that was always advertised as 2 um filter when it was actually a 5 um absolute.

I agree with the above and have been following this thread and reading up on older threads because I think injectors are in my near future I too am completely confused on the numerous types of injectors. By types I am referring to how the word "new" and "remanufactured" are seemingly used interchangeably.

In my mind a "new" injector is one that has never been installed in another engine at all. A new injector is built from entirely virgin brand new components, assembled and tested. If I am buying a new injector, there should not be a core charge, because the vendor should not need my cores to restock their supply. It is comprised of all new parts, period. A new injector could be modified for more flow and sold as such, but the injector still starts out as new.

A remanufactured injector is one that has been in service. It is removed completely disassembled, brought back into spec (if possible, otherwise discarded) with new parts and then bench tested to be within OEM spec, or modified for its intended flow. I would expect to pay a core charge for a remanufactured injector. To further muddy up this area I am now seeing "Long Life" versions? What the heck is "Long Life" versus standard? Long life means they actually did the job right and the lesser versions are borderline junk?

A used injector is one that has been bench tested to see if it is in spec, then resold.

I liken this whole situation to replacing a starter. When you buy a starter nowadays, "standard rebuild" - we degreased someone elses junk, "gold rebuild" -we degreased and actually tested it and replaced some parts (but not all the parts and we didn't put our best man on the job), "platinum rebuild" we degreased it, disassembled it, rebuilt it using quality parts and workmanship and tested it.

When the time comes, it will be BBi for me as most of the others seem to be in that gray area where you can't really be sure that what you are paying for is in fact a brand new injector.
 
I agree 100%. The problem, as I understand it, is Bosch is demanding cores on new injector sales. Most likely to keep those cores from the hands of rebuilders.
 
Based on our experience, Bosch is not demanding, nor even asking, for cores on NEW injectors. We do not offer any remanufactured injectors, yet it seems and makes sense that most outfits DO require cores on remanned units.
 
Based on our experience, Bosch is not demanding, nor even asking, for cores on NEW injectors. We do not offer any remanufactured injectors, yet it seems and makes sense that most outfits DO require cores on remanned units.

I was under the impression that BBI was assembling new injectors from parts, not whole injectors. Am I wrong?
 
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